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#439584 - 11/22/17 12:55 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Just stating that if you where interested and that I was about to buy a 79 dollar reverb then bought mixcraft tons of plugs and loops awesome recording sound etc.

David yes I know we all get stuck in a bit of a rut depending on a fav Daw.


awww well onwards and upwards.
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#439585 - 11/22/17 12:55 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: David Snyder]
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Everybody DON'T PANIC!

Why not wait and see what is going to happen in the next few months instead of running out and buying a new DAW? Does Sonar meet your needs now? If so use it. If Cakewalk isn't picked up in a few months then it is time to change. Unless of course you are like me! Sonar as it stand right now does all I need so I will probably use it for at least another year and maybe longer.

YMMV
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#439589 - 11/22/17 12:59 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Yes I agree Mario it was a good buy for me, as their are two excellent reverbs that I have tried so far.

I got another daw and a whole load of plugs for the price of one.


It does blow sonar/acid out the water tho l.o.l.
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#439593 - 11/22/17 01:08 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Hmmmm, puts the Craig Anderton leaving Cakewalk recently into perspective, doesn't it?
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#439594 - 11/22/17 01:10 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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And this really sucks. I have purchased over the years almost everything Cakewalk related - sound libraries, DAW's, etc.

I hope they sell off the Cakewalk division, rather than just drop it, and then the new company offers something for loyal companies.

Otherwise, I will never ever buy anything with a Gibson or Philips brand again. May not make a difference to them, but that's my response to something like this.
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#439600 - 11/22/17 01:35 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I’m concerned that they keep the authorization servers working. If not, my lifetime ‘subscription’ reverts to demo mode. That would be bad.

I plan to just sit tight, but also start saving any unfinished project files. Then I’ll decide which other DAW to use.

To the poster who said the BIAB files sound better in another DAW besides SONAR, well, no. There is something else at work.
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#439616 - 11/22/17 02:18 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: MarioD]
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Yes, good advice Mario. Let's not jump to conclusions here. Early days still. Early days.
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#439625 - 11/22/17 02:35 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Shows how much they care about their customers that have dropped a good bit of money on their products.

I guess all they have to say is, "sorry".

And the lifetime offer was when Cakewalk was already owned by Gibson, so what the hell??? Did they know then that "lifetime" was really about two years or so?
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#439642 - 11/22/17 03:21 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Hope I don't sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer, but

... the folks over in the Reaper forum will welcome you all with open arms. For those who don't know, Reaper is simply fantastic. Rock Solid and fully featured. New features added on a frequent basis and I never see bugs. A complete detailed manual which is updated with each new revision. But better yet, just Google what you want with the word Reaper and you will find the instructions. Compatible with everything!

Free to try for 60 days, then 6 sec delay screen at start to remind you that you should send them 60 USD [that means, Try until you buy, no restrictions]. I didn't leave Pro-tools, Pro-tools left me. Went to Reaper and never looked back.

This may be the time for you to come on over. Look for me in the Forum. I am still Jazzmandan over there.
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#439689 - 11/22/17 06:06 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: MusicStudent]
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent


... the folks over in the Reaper forum will welcome you all with open arms..


maybe someone will start a reaper for sonar users thread over there to ease the transision
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#439708 - 11/22/17 07:23 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I’ll tell the Tracktion story to possibly give the Cakewalk owners some hope.

Tracktion was developed primarily by one developer through version 2 or so. Then Mackie bought it and bundled a pile of software with it, acted like they would push the software which they did for a short time then abandoned all development. Panic ensued in the rather small user base. Software went dark for several years. Original developer reappeared with a new team and it came back to life and is now at what amounts to version 8. It’s still my fave DAW and has led PRo Tools in some features by years. Still very inexpensive relatively speaking. Still confusing to people that can’t use a DAW without a fake mixing board on screen.

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#439754 - 11/22/17 10:32 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I read this news with some distress, being a Cakewalk user since the days of Pro Audio 8 (Win98 days) and I've played around with other Cakewalk products that would come bundled with sound cards and the like reaching all the way back to the good ol' DOS days.

There's one primary reason why I've stuck with Cakewalk all these years and it is because they've always included a Staff View in their products. I think on the staff when I write music. It's a big reason why I've stuck with BiaB for almost 20 years. A staff view. Pro Tools (ptui!) does not include a staff view in its product. So it is useless to me. Yes, AVID is the current publisher now for Sibelius, but Sibelius is more like pretty-looking music publishing software than software meant to get real sounds from. And it doesn't fit well with PT anyway.

I guess I'll continue to use Sonar until the bitter end. If I have to maintain an antiquated system just to keep Sonar going, I'll do so. Hopefully somebody will realize Gibson's folly and rescue Cakewalk from its predicament. What about an employee buy-out option? That's worked in other industries. It might in this case too.


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#439811 - 11/23/17 05:23 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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matt

To the poster who said the BIAB files sound better in another DAW besides SONAR, well, no. There is something else at work.

Hi Matt what do you mean by this, As i have used Cakewalk way back to midi only.

I am giving my honest opinion I was on mixcraft last night again and it is awesome what you get included for a daw .

And the special price means I'm looking at the Cakewalk scenario as luck.

Made me try another daw.

As the meerkat says simple.
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#439823 - 11/23/17 06:14 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Hi beatmaster. I’m not disputing your good results but I would argue it’s not because you are playing .WAV files in another DAW. Any DAW playing .WAV files should sound exactly the same. In fact, if they don’t sound the same, something is very wrong.

So, since it sounds better to you in Mixcraft, there is another reason. It could be a difference in the default panning law, since SONAR has several choices. More likely you have some form of processing plugin set on in Mixcraft. Take a look for that. Or, on the flip side, maybe you had some plugin in SONAR that wasn’t helping.

Mixcraft is one of the few DAWs I haven’t used, so I’m glad you like it. Everyone has to choose a DAW based on features and user interface/workflow method. But not based on sound. Does that help?
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#439833 - 11/23/17 07:14 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Although I'm not a Cakewalk fan, I'm sad about this and I feel for you.

I still have an XP computer so that I can use Master Tracks Pro.

Microsoft bought Passport (the originators) so it could use its technology in Power Point. They sold the rights to Encore (notation) and MTPro (sequencer) to G-Vox.

G-Vox changed very little, they added long file names, more modern looking dialog boxes but introduced a number of bugs in it. All but a couple were eventually fixed.

They continued to develop Encore but did nothing for MTPro. Eventually one of the people in G-Vox bought MTPro and renamed his new company Passport with the intention of revising MTPro. That never happened.

I like MTPro because there is no Audio and thus a simpler interface with no sub or sub-sub menus. It's much faster to use and it also loads and saves fast so I spend more time on the musical instrument and less time on the computer.

Plus it's very powerful and has groove filters.

Then when I'm all done with the MIDI, if I want to add audio, I'll open the MIDI file in a DAW.

My oldest version of MTPro doesn't work in Win10 and it's the bug free version. The newest version barely works in Win10, certain features just don't work right, thus the XP computer.

MTPro started on the Motorola Mac and was upgraded to Intel/OSX - and no longer works. It was ported to the Atari first and then Windows. Now it's an orphan.

Cakewalk just got orphaned too. At least Cakewalk works on Win10 so you should be able to use it for a decade or more without worries.

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RealBand 2018 Build 5 Update Available!

RealBand 2018 customers can download the latest free patch update here: http://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#2018_5

Summary of Changes for Build 5
Added: When generating the input file for saving as an MGU/SGU SongMode128= is saved to the input file.
Added: Localization support for 2018.
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Fixed: Rebooting RealBand after a filename with 128 chars was saved could cause an access violation.
Fixed: Pressing the Change button in the Event List Window could result in an access violation if an event was not a Note event.
Fixed: When running in Win 10, and using BBW or PT to generate audio harmonies, an error would occur saying that you need BB 2011 or PT 12 to generate audio harmonies.
Fixed: Midi Thru Method was not being saved to the .INI file. It always reverting to Track-Specific when booting up RealBand, even if the user manually changed the setting to Global in the Midi Thru Settings dialog.
Fixed: Delete All Notes on This Peg menu item in notation window right-click menu was missing.
Fixed: Potential crash on exit (having to do with the DLL attempting to free up a dynamic array that was passed to it).

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Build 512 Update Available!

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Summary of changes for Build 512 since 510 (Feb 15 2018):
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Fixed: After returning Band-in-a-Box to factory settings the File Open dialog would default to the bb\Data\Lib directory.
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Fixed: Static in RT2438 and other various RealTracks fixes.
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Support for ABC Notation Format in Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows!

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