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#448701 - 01/02/18 10:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters...[Solved]
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I have a Scarlett 2i2 1st gen, have MME set at 488,Scarlett is set in and out, lost asio buffer size control from my task bar, it plays correctly and then stutters near end of songs. This is playing on jukebox, after stutter next song loads and plays fine. I am using Avast and downloaded update, same. I was running 2016 for 18 months with no issues. I have a gig in 5 days !! help. I have removed and reinstalled scarlett, asio4all,focusrite really lost.

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#448702 - 01/02/18 10:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Set to MME after calling tech support....I can't remember but I must have had this on ASIO previously..

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#448703 - 01/02/18 10:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Firstly....

In Avast! exclude the \bb and \Realband directories.

To do this right-click on the Avast! icon in the taskbar and select "Open user interface" (#1 on image below).

Now follow 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 to add \bb and \Realband.

Let us know how you go. This may well solve your problem.

Regards,
Noel


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#448704 - 01/02/18 10:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Secondly, if the above doesn't help...

Under "Options | Preferences | Realtracks", deselect the option "Fast generation of Realtracks".

Does this help?


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#448707 - 01/02/18 11:07 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Firstly....

In Avast! exclude the \bb and \Realband directories.

To do this right-click on the Avast! icon in the taskbar and select "Open user interface" (#1 on image below).

Now follow 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 to add \bb and \Realband.

Let us know how you go. This may well solve your problem.

Regards,
Noel
Did this, saw your next post as I went to disable Fast Generation it went into stutter....

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#448708 - 01/02/18 11:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Now playing normally waiting for final verdict, Thanks so far....

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#448709 - 01/02/18 11:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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The red notes are not showing sometimes on playback (helps me find my place in case of distraction at Gigs...) seems song generation is slower now and I have it on Jukebox, should I freeze tracks ?


Edited by 1mansaxband (01/02/18 11:15 PM)

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#448710 - 01/02/18 11:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Is the song that's stuttering an up tempo one and/or one that has many Realtracks that need generating?
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#448711 - 01/02/18 11:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
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There will never be another you, t150 Bouncy Dixie Swing added Mandolin and Cello...

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#448712 - 01/02/18 11:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Next song Jazz Swing Trio t220 loaded quick...no stutter on 3 played

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#448713 - 01/02/18 11:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?

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#448715 - 01/02/18 11:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Ahh... that's a pretty lively tempo.

When BIAB generates a song with "Speed up generation" enabled, it generates the first half dozen bars or so and then begins playing. Generation of the rest of the song then proceeds as a background process while playing is in progress.

What I suspect is happening with this song is that because of the tempo, by the time you get near the end of the song, you've caught up to where the background regenerating is happening (hence the stuttering - BIAB is trying to play notes that are still being generated). The combined process of generating and playing simultaneously, pushes a computer's CPU to the limit.

When you play a song that has a tempo of 100, I anticipate that stuttering does not occur because BIAB can generate fast enough to keep ahead of the playing.

If my theory is correct, all should proceed well with the "Speed up generation" disabled.

Regards,
Noel


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#448716 - 01/02/18 11:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?


Yes, the more Realtracks you have, the more you're expecting of the computer.

Freezing will help load the songs a little quicker because BIAB has already determined the chord progressions.

The quickest way to load a song would be to render it to audio and then to use a CD/DVD player to play the song. (This is also a very wise backup plan in case BIAB or your computer misbehaves during the performance.)


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#448717 - 01/02/18 11:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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I am now freezing them....any thoughts on the red notes going missing at times ?

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#448718 - 01/02/18 11:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Are you using notation mode?
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#448719 - 01/02/18 11:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?


Yes, the more Realtracks you have, the more you're expecting of the computer.

Freezing will help load the songs a little quicker because BIAB has already determined the chord progressions.

The quickest way to load a song would be to render it to audio and then to use a CD/DVD player to play the song. (This is also a very wise backup plan in case BIAB or your computer misbehaves during the performance.)


If I render it to audio and have it on a CD I also need to print my lead sheets ?

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#448720 - 01/02/18 11:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Stutter is back...

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#448721 - 01/02/18 11:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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What are you computer specs?

Operating system, RAM, CPU speed, etc.

Also... How many RTs are you using on the song that stuttered and what is it's tempo.

Lastly, double-check that the 'Speed up generation' is still disabled.

(Please make notes and I'll read them when I get back in bit. I need to leave the computer for a while now.)
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#448722 - 01/02/18 11:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
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Win 10 home 1.6 ghz 8 gb ram 64 bit

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#448723 - 01/02/18 11:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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To be continued tomorrow, its 12 midnite here on Jan 2 in Canada.....youre in Australia 7pm Jan 3 ? Thanks for all your help..

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