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#455059 - 02/01/18 06:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] RealBand for Mac
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I know this has been requested before, but it would be very cool if RB was made available to us Mac users. Even a "lite" version would be useful. I have it loaded on my Surface Pro and have played around with it just enough to know that I would find it helpful particularly in the roughing-out early stages of a composition.

I'm very happy with the drag&drop features in Mac BIAB and working in Logic Pro, but having RB on my iMac would give me another compositional tool with additional capabilities. Its tight integration with BIAB is something that's not available in GarageBand, Logic, or any other DAW.
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#455063 - 02/01/18 06:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: RealBand for Mac [Re: Guitartist]
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That’s true, RealBand can do things Garage Band cannot. I’ve wondered if BIAB could regenerate sections of a track like RealBand can, would there still be a call for RealBand on the Mac?
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#455084 - 02/01/18 07:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: RealBand for Mac [Re: Guitartist]
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Maybe the easier solution would be to implement Rewire, in which case Logic Pro can talk directly to BIAB to generate tracks within Logic. Update the tracks within BIAB and they get updated automatically in the DAW. Just a thought.

As I understand it, there is no RealBand for mac (and there was never a PowerTracks for Mac either, which is what RealBand was based on), so it would require a ground-up coding effort (which may not be a bad thing, but it would definitely end up being version 1.000). I would think that implementing Rewire would an easier solution (he said without having a clue what it would take to do so, although lots of other audio programs seem to have no problem implementing it).
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#455104 - 02/01/18 08:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: RealBand for Mac [Re: Matt Finley]
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I'm not sure, Matt. I've only barely scratched the surface of RB. In all honesty, my guess is that there will never be a RB developed for Mac and I certainly do not want to beat a dead horse. But since this is a wishlist....
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#455106 - 02/01/18 09:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: RealBand for Mac [Re: jford]
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Yes, that could be an interesting option, John. I agree that rewire implementation would probably be simpler than recoding RB.
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#455109 - 02/01/18 09:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: RealBand for Mac [Re: Guitartist]
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John, correct, no RealBand for Mac. +1 for Rewire support.

Guitarist, since you are comfortable with a DAW, what is it in RealBand that would help you, besides the ability to regenerate part of a track as I mentioned?

ps, I can't believe the new (in 2000) forum software made it three years before someone registered the username of "Guitarist".
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#455258 - 02/02/18 06:53 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: RealBand for Mac [Re: Matt Finley]
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The multiriff feature would be something that I would really use a lot, I think. It would be like laying down several guitar solo takes and then comping them, taking parts from each take to create the finished solo. Only in this case, of course, it would be a RealTrack. I've done this to some extent by generating different RT "takes" and importing them into Logic where I then dice & splice. But having the ability to do this before I even get to Logic would be much more efficient.

Otherwise, the overall integration between RB & BIAB is impressive. Like opening BIAB files directly in RB.

I wouldn't want to see BIAB get bloated with too many more features, but if the multiriff feature could be incorporated into BIAB, along with Rewire support, I would be happy.

Ron

p.s. Re: my user name...most people fail to notice the middle "t." It's "Guitartist," not "Guitarist." I'm a guitar player and an artist. Guit + artist. That's why I'm holding paint brushes in my profile pic. smile
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