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#455030 - 02/01/18 01:55 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Problems with XLR jack
wish Offline
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Hi, I am using BiaB for my backing tracks, converted to an MP3 file and loaded onto my IPad. From there it's vocal and acoustic guitar.
When I plug a mini jack to a 1/4" into my speaker or Mixer it's all good.
I have a TC Helicon voice solo which I want to use as a foldback speaker (I'm old and deaf.) I wanted to use the XLR/1/4" combo input for the IPad but only half of the signal comes through. If I pan the signal on my iPad to the right (I'm using an app called Onsong to enable me to do this) I get a full signal. At first I thought there was an issue with the Helicon but if I try the same thing with my JBL powered speaker the same thing happens, but using the second input which is a 1/4" it's normal.
So in short am I right in presuming a XLR/1/4" combo gives a different signal to a dedicated 1/4" stereo jack.
Confused but appreciate any comments.
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#455042 - 02/01/18 04:54 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
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Balanced mono is not stereo.

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#455148 - 02/01/18 12:58 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: Paj]
wish Offline
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Sorry, I have no idea what that means.
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Goldstar Midi keyboard, JBL Eon speaker,
Allen and Heath Mixer, TC HELICON Voice Solo
Vocalist Live 5, Maton acoustic guitar, Onsong

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#455152 - 02/01/18 01:08 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
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Sorry, I have no idea what that means.


The 3-pin XLR connection is a mono connection. The 1/4" balanced connection takes what looks like a stereo audio cable, but it's not a stereo cable. It's a mono connection. The article below describes what happens in an unbalanced versus balanced connection and the different cables used.

Balanced versus Unbalanced
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#455161 - 02/01/18 02:00 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
wish Offline
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Thank you for that, at least I know that my inputs are ok.
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Windows10,INTEL CORE i3-330M Processor 2.13GHz 64bit
Coyote Forte DXi
Goldstar Midi keyboard, JBL Eon speaker,
Allen and Heath Mixer, TC HELICON Voice Solo
Vocalist Live 5, Maton acoustic guitar, Onsong

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#455175 - 02/01/18 03:33 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
Matt Finley Offline
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This is a frequent question. You are not alone.
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#455234 - 02/02/18 04:09 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
wish Offline
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So just one last question to tidy up.......
If I bought a mini jack to XLR ....will that solve the issue of panning the sound to right or left.
Please say yes cause I just bought one on E Bay!!
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Sony SSD
Windows10,INTEL CORE i3-330M Processor 2.13GHz 64bit
Coyote Forte DXi
Goldstar Midi keyboard, JBL Eon speaker,
Allen and Heath Mixer, TC HELICON Voice Solo
Vocalist Live 5, Maton acoustic guitar, Onsong

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#455252 - 02/02/18 06:00 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
sslechta Offline
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XLR is still a mono connection. At best you may have the mono signal to both LEFT and RIGHT. You would need to let us know your complete signal path with cables/adapters listed to help us more.

IPAD to this adapter, to this cable, to speaker, etc.
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#458099 - 02/18/18 01:50 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Problems with XLR jack [Re: wish]
wish Offline
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This connection works a treat for me, problem solved.
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Allen and Heath Mixer, TC HELICON Voice Solo
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