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Wondering if there is an adapter available for the 160 gig hard drive that I got with BB2009? Currently, I have to use both USB plugs (and they do not work through my hub) on my PC so it renders my mouse and other external drives useless. Looks like there is an input for an adapter. What are the specs (I may have one) or if not, can I buy one? Cheers!
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Radio Shack should have a Universal supply you could get but I'd buy a powered USB hub.
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Wondering if there is an adapter available for the 160 gig hard drive that I got with BB2009? Currently, I have to use both USB plugs (and they do not work through my hub) on my PC so it renders my mouse and other external drives useless. Looks like there is an input for an adapter. What are the specs (I may have one) or if not, can I buy one? Cheers!
What is the brand and model of the drive?
PGMusic shipped from different mfrs at different times.
Also, take a close look at the area around where the coaxial power plug connects, there may be an embossed logo there.
The written documentation that shipped with the drive should also have this information or at least the brand and model so we can track it down.
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Another approach, assuming you received the type of drive with the "Y" USB cable (since you mentioned "both plugs", is to use a self-powered USB hub to supply the adequate power, and then use just the main USB connection for the data transfer. Note that the hub must be a self-powered hub for this to work. This was the only way I could get my BIAB hard drive to work, and I ran the solution by PG Music first. You can find powered USB hubs for under $20.
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While I do think that the lowcost powered USB hub would be the better choice, checking the USB disks I have lying around here, it looks like the small ones that use laptop drives internally all run off of 5VDC to 5.1VDC miniature switching wallwarts. Current of these three wallwarts (I have many small USB drives in the office, but only three came with the wallwarts) is 1A on the minimum side and 2.2A for the largest capacity one. Maybe that can get you started finding a wallwart in your grab box. Be sure to have the correct polarity on the plug tip. FWIW, the ones I have look like they were probably originally designed for cellphone charging or the like.
The USB spec for power is 5VDC at 2 Amps. This should be enough to power any of these drives. The problem comes in when motherboard mfrs or their designers don't actually provide the full two amperes of current at your machine's USB socket. I've never investigated with the test equimpment, but I'd bet they are using Current Limiting resistor in series with each socket and because they didn't want the expense of doing it right, with "proper" regulation at each socket separately instead, the current the socket is able to supply is dependant upon the DC resistance of the device in question. The hard drives, having to spin the motor and move the headarm, are likely a lower resistance than most other devices and thus load the voltage down on the socket side of that cheap resistor. The scenario makes electrical sense but as I said, I have never opened up a mobo on the testbench and proofed the theory. However, the fact that having two connectors at one end of the cable, and that only one of those connectors has the actual Serial connection wired through to it while the other is just the two 5VDC lines in parallel pretty much tells the story to anyone savvy in the art of electronics.
Can't see 'em doing anything else, though. And that is customer driven not some manufacturing conspiracy theory. See, you guys and gals are always wanting to pay the lesser price. If one company puts out the thing for less money and it "appears" to be "the same thing" then you get what you pay for. Meanwhile, the poor engineer who designs the USB power ports *properly* with a separate 2Amp voltage regulator circuit for each one, ends up getting yelled at or laid off because his company didn't sell the boards that cost more money.
And that's the way it is.
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These drives can be hard to research..
Mine reports as a WL 80 GLSA 854 which turns up nothing in searches.
Device manager calls it a WL80GSLA 854 USB Device
Looks a little like the 'Disk2Go' brand with the curved shroud around the one blue lite/button on top.
The power supply logo beside the plug says the positive should be the center, but no voltage listed on it
No brand name anywhere on the thing
Top says "MOBILE BACKUP external data storage" which also turns up nothing ..
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Rharv, the key here is that all the *little* sized USB drives contain a laptop hard drive.
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