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#459533 - 02/27/18 07:31 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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I'm looking at multiple drum programs and +++ RealiDrums +++ is one of the more interesting programs I've run across.

What differentiates this program from the rest is the way it handles breaks. A drum break can be 1, 2, 3 or 4 beats and implemented anytime.
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#459563 - 02/28/18 04:14 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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I can do that with EZDrummer as well, unless I'm not understanding you? I can place a drum fill wherever I want and can trim it to be as long as I want.
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#459642 - 02/28/18 12:57 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Back in my MIDI days, I was able to create some pretty decent drum tracks, but the sounds I used were not comparable to RealDrums. I'm assuming EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer come with a pretty good sound library?
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#459649 - 02/28/18 01:17 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Takamine]
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Yes, it comes with a great sound library and you can purchase additional sound libraries too.
The sound is just as good as realdrums IMHO, but more versatile when you need more control.
Have a listen to my latest song to hear it in action, link is in my signature.
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#459653 - 02/28/18 01:25 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Takamine]
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You can purchase SD3 sound library on an SSD 230GIG 24bit wav.

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#461001 - 03/07/18 10:38 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
I'm looking at multiple drum programs and +++ RealiDrums +++ is one of the more interesting programs I've run across.

It seems that RealiDrums are meant to be triggered from the keyboard in real time, while a lot of the other drum VSTIs expect the non-drummer to build parts from a supplied MIDI library.

This means you can fiddle with the parameters in real time to get what you're after, which is quite nice. It looks pretty cool.
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#461050 - 03/07/18 06:26 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: dcuny]
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RealiDrums accepts input in realtime but can also accept input from a midi track.

Something else I like is the program has both brushes and stick instrument sounds. I get the feeling (at least from the advertising and manuals) with some programs that either both drum sounds are not available or that you choose one of the other.

When I mentioned RealiDrums can do 1, 2, 3 and 4 beat fills BlueAttitude responded his program can do that with some cut and paste moves. The reason I mentioned that is RealiDrums does the fills without having to cut and paste. I feel that is an important distinction for someone like me or Bud that do not have much experience with MIDI. Who wants to cut and paste if you don't have to?
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#461051 - 03/07/18 06:41 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Here's a way to create them on the fly with whatever drum vst you are using:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fzZDEzQunc&feature=youtu.be

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#461081 - 03/08/18 02:51 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle


When I mentioned RealiDrums can do 1, 2, 3 and 4 beat fills BlueAttitude responded his program can do that with some cut and paste moves. The reason I mentioned that is RealiDrums does the fills without having to cut and paste. I feel that is an important distinction for someone like me or Bud that do not have much experience with MIDI. Who wants to cut and paste if you don't have to?


I probably didn't explain it very well. Using EZD2 requires no knowledge of midi whatsoever (I know very little about midi)
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#461089 - 03/08/18 03:58 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Sonar had Session Drummer but you needed to work at it. Then along came Addictive Drums 2 in Sonar Producer. Addictive Drums came with a heap of drum patterns for different parts of a song and a mirad of fills, intros and outros. It is quite easy to make little changes to patterns. One soon found himself buying more kits and parts of kits (eg another snare or kick or bongos etc) and more patterns. The really great thing was it is easy to set things up so the drummer sounded more realistic by not hitting the middle of a snare every hit or whatever. All that was required was to pull the pattern or fill into the track. Whilst you did not really need to understand midi nor drumming you could get a lot more out of the packages with a little understanding of both. For example, lifting a note by a semitone might result in a rim shot or hitting a cymbal on the bell and the like. Addictive Drums had a totally different drum map to most midi drums or Session Drummer but it did not take long at all to work with the differences and pulling patterns into a track is a lot easier than writing your own. Alas it is not cheap.

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#461131 - 03/08/18 07:49 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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FYI..... Superior Drummer 3 has patch updates. If you own it, open the Product Manager and update.
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PG Music News
RealTracks Patch Update for Windows Users

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest RealTracks update patch (519) here.

This patch includes some RealTracks audio updates we have made since the release of Band-in-a-Box 2018. 2018 users should be sure to download the latest Band-in-a-Box 2018 update patch (519), as that patch includes the bulk of the fixes for RealTracks released with 2018. This is a larger download than typical because it updates the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks audio files. There is more information and Audiophile patches available here.

Summary of RealTracks Audio updates:
Improved: There were small issues with the tuning of several Bass styles. This has been fixed for both the original mix and the direct input mix. This affects the following RealTracks:
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow16thsByron Ev16 060
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow128Byron Sw 040
- Bass, Acoustic, RockabillySwingByron Sw 190
- Bass, Acoustic, BluesyPopByron Ev 100
Improved: Audio glitches have been removed from the ends of phrases in the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest (free) update patch (519) here.

Summary of changes:
Added: Additional dialog available for detailed information in the StyleMaker (fields for memo, examples, and other parameters). These are set in the StyleMaker (more dialog, a button called "Style Memos etc").
Added: Help Video button Added to the Audio Harmony dialog.
Improved: ABC opening improvements with some accidentals, and leadin bars that occur in middle of song.
Improved: Audio harmonies now used Improved algorithms, and can be easily set using N voices above, M voices below (and have additional functions like duplicate melody, and dup. melody octave below).
Improved: Lyrics will be now read from .mid files that used to be karaoke files (.kar) and got renamed somewhere along the line.
Improved: Support for RealTracks that should be transposed only lower (ie heavy metal guitars) and for future Improved metal guitar comping.
Improved: The Audio Harmony Dialog has been rearranged to be more intuitive when using Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: Audio harmonies might be missing some notes.
Fixed: Audio harmonies would be generated with the wrong notes if selecting a range of audio in the middle of the track.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash on bootup with error "Read Beyond end of file".
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box should show message if the latest VJT application is not installed when the user tries to render videos.
Fixed: File > Open Special > Open Audio was importing audio instead of opening it in a new song.
Fixed: In the Bar Settings window, "Chordsheet and Notation - Start a New Line" should say "Notation - Start a New Line".
Fixed: It was not possible to record audio using WAS audio drivers if "Output always on" was disabled.
Fixed: Misc. RealTracks updates.
Fixed: Quicklist drums picker sometimes showing too many drums in the list.
Fixed: Redundant flash messages were showing.
Fixed: Removing a custom drums from a track would still display Drums as the name of the loop in the track.
Fixed: Rendering audio while there is a region of bars highlighted in the chord sheet might cause a crash.
Fixed: Saving a MIDI file would fail unless saving as type 1.
Fixed: Some 12-key RealTracks were incorrectly set to allow transposition.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog needed some hints.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog was missing the new Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: The VJT application should print out its version number in log files.

Tutorials - How to Install Your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac Hard Drive

When you have your Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac UltraPAK shipped to you on a portable hard drive, there are a few different options for installation. We go over these 3 options with our latest video series:

Option 1: Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only: click here to view.

Option 2: Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks & RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to view.

Option 3: Install Band-in-a-Box® and the RealTracks & RealDrums on your computer hard drive: click here to view.

Check out all our Band-in-a-Box for Mac videos here.

Video - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets for Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Have you purchased your Band-in-a-Box® package, and want to make sure you're downloading and installing the RealTracks Sets correctly?

Well, we've created just the tutorial video you're looking for! Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac® - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets.

Video link:
www.pgmusic.com/?vid=QndXu8H_IwM

Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

David Sparks and Katie Floyd discuss a variety of topics in their recent episide of Mac Power Users: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/432 - listen all the way through (and laugh along with them - it was a very entertaining episode!), or jump to 1:37:40 where David shares his thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac!

Thank you David and Katie!

Polish New Features Video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows

Our Polish Distributor, Sound Station, has finished their Band-in-a-Box 2018 New Features summary video (in Polish!) - click here to watch.

We hope all our Polish Band-in-a-Box users find this video helpful - thank you Sound Station!

YouTube Find - Love it (with Band-in-a-Box 2018)

YouTube channel EmtpyHallToones uploaded a video of their guitar performance using Band-in-a-Box backing tracks!

Click here to watch.

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