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#459533 - 02/27/18 07:31 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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I'm looking at multiple drum programs and +++ RealiDrums +++ is one of the more interesting programs I've run across.

What differentiates this program from the rest is the way it handles breaks. A drum break can be 1, 2, 3 or 4 beats and implemented anytime.
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#459563 - 02/28/18 04:14 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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I can do that with EZDrummer as well, unless I'm not understanding you? I can place a drum fill wherever I want and can trim it to be as long as I want.
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#459642 - 02/28/18 12:57 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Back in my MIDI days, I was able to create some pretty decent drum tracks, but the sounds I used were not comparable to RealDrums. I'm assuming EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer come with a pretty good sound library?
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#459649 - 02/28/18 01:17 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Takamine]
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Yes, it comes with a great sound library and you can purchase additional sound libraries too.
The sound is just as good as realdrums IMHO, but more versatile when you need more control.
Have a listen to my latest song to hear it in action, link is in my signature.
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#459653 - 02/28/18 01:25 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Takamine]
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You can purchase SD3 sound library on an SSD 230GIG 24bit wav.
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#461001 - 03/07/18 10:38 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
I'm looking at multiple drum programs and +++ RealiDrums +++ is one of the more interesting programs I've run across.

It seems that RealiDrums are meant to be triggered from the keyboard in real time, while a lot of the other drum VSTIs expect the non-drummer to build parts from a supplied MIDI library.

This means you can fiddle with the parameters in real time to get what you're after, which is quite nice. It looks pretty cool.
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#461050 - 03/07/18 06:26 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: dcuny]
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RealiDrums accepts input in realtime but can also accept input from a midi track.

Something else I like is the program has both brushes and stick instrument sounds. I get the feeling (at least from the advertising and manuals) with some programs that either both drum sounds are not available or that you choose one of the other.

When I mentioned RealiDrums can do 1, 2, 3 and 4 beat fills BlueAttitude responded his program can do that with some cut and paste moves. The reason I mentioned that is RealiDrums does the fills without having to cut and paste. I feel that is an important distinction for someone like me or Bud that do not have much experience with MIDI. Who wants to cut and paste if you don't have to?
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#461051 - 03/07/18 06:41 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Here's a way to create them on the fly with whatever drum vst you are using:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fzZDEzQunc&feature=youtu.be
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#461081 - 03/08/18 02:51 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle


When I mentioned RealiDrums can do 1, 2, 3 and 4 beat fills BlueAttitude responded his program can do that with some cut and paste moves. The reason I mentioned that is RealiDrums does the fills without having to cut and paste. I feel that is an important distinction for someone like me or Bud that do not have much experience with MIDI. Who wants to cut and paste if you don't have to?


I probably didn't explain it very well. Using EZD2 requires no knowledge of midi whatsoever (I know very little about midi)
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#461089 - 03/08/18 03:58 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Sonar had Session Drummer but you needed to work at it. Then along came Addictive Drums 2 in Sonar Producer. Addictive Drums came with a heap of drum patterns for different parts of a song and a mirad of fills, intros and outros. It is quite easy to make little changes to patterns. One soon found himself buying more kits and parts of kits (eg another snare or kick or bongos etc) and more patterns. The really great thing was it is easy to set things up so the drummer sounded more realistic by not hitting the middle of a snare every hit or whatever. All that was required was to pull the pattern or fill into the track. Whilst you did not really need to understand midi nor drumming you could get a lot more out of the packages with a little understanding of both. For example, lifting a note by a semitone might result in a rim shot or hitting a cymbal on the bell and the like. Addictive Drums had a totally different drum map to most midi drums or Session Drummer but it did not take long at all to work with the differences and pulling patterns into a track is a lot easier than writing your own. Alas it is not cheap.

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#461131 - 03/08/18 07:49 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: Anyone using Superior Drummer 3 ? [Re: BlueAttitude]
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FYI..... Superior Drummer 3 has patch updates. If you own it, open the Product Manager and update.
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