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Changing key midway #503607 11/24/18 01:26 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137 N Narayano OP Apprentice
OP Narayano Apprentice N Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137	I'm learning to play Recuerdos de la Alhambra and it is in the key of C for the first 40 bars then at bar 41 it changes to A Major. Can I ask how to do that please? Thank you Narayano

Re: Changing key midway Narayano #503623 11/24/18 03:27 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,098 South Carolina C Charlie Fogle Veteran
Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,098 South Carolina	In the chord chart, at bar 41 begin inputting the chords in the key of A Major. For instance, if the first 4 bars of the song are C\|D\|E\|F and at bar 41, the progression is the same except the Key has modulated to A Major, enter the equivalent chord progression, A\|B\|C\|D If your question is regarding music theory to transition and modulate rather than the mechanics of inputting the chords into the BIAB chord chart, others with the technical knowledge regarding music theory will jump in.... I listened to the song on YouTube. It's a beautiful piece. I'm sure you'll enjoy learning and performing it in the future. Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 11/24/18 03:27 AM. BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: Changing key midway Narayano #503693 11/24/18 08:27 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,407 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,407 Wauconda	Under the F5 option you can tell BIAB to change key at any bar. I just tried this and was a bit surprised not to see the chords automatically change at that point, but I suspect telling BIAB that the key has changed at that bar, combined with the manual adjustment of the chords to the new key, will permit the engine to recognize the new tonal center. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Changing key midway Narayano #504139 11/26/18 10:39 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,382 K Kent - PG Music PG Music Staff
Kent - PG Music PG Music Staff K Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,382	Exactly, the key signature change option in Bar Settings only affects the key signature itself, so which accidentals you see in the Notation Window, and doesn't transpose the music. You'd want to also enter the chords in A after bar 40, or enter them in C and use Edit - Transpose - Transpose From.. To.. (assuming you're using BIAB for Windows). Thanks Kent PG Music

Re: Changing key midway Kent - PG Music #505431 12/01/18 01:30 AM Beginners Forum
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OP Narayano Apprentice N Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137	Sorry if I'm a bit slow with this guys but my music theory is pretty well nil. To change the key to A at bar 41 I press F5 and change the key to A. Does this mean that all the chords after 41 will be in A rather than C that was 1 - 40? The only change I see on the screen is that bar 41 is underlined in red. I am using windows 10. Many thanks, Narayano

Re: Changing key midway Charlie Fogle #505432 12/01/18 01:34 AM Beginners Forum
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OP Narayano Apprentice N Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137	Thanks Charlie. It is a lovely piece of music - I'm learning the arrangement for the flugel from this clip of the movie Brassed Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo8hIc7DpuE&t=147s

Re: Changing key midway DrDan #505433 12/01/18 01:38 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137 N Narayano OP Apprentice
OP Narayano Apprentice N Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137	Thank you Dan. I've changed the key to A using the F5 option and then putting in the chords from the sheet music. Not really sure if changing the key at bar 41 will mean all the bars after that will be in A or if I need to keep using the f5 option for each bar. Thank you for your help. Narayano

Re: Changing key midway Narayano #505476 12/01/18 03:40 AM Beginners Forum
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida	Changing the "key" at a certain bar only changes the "key signature" and therefore only affects notation views. It does not transpose chords at that point. I think there is a separate command to do that, but I'm just on my Smartphone right now and can't look it up. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

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