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#65171 - 04/02/10 03:04 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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That's what I thought, I have replied and tried to clarify my problem, thanks Rharv!

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#65172 - 04/02/10 04:26 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: stratocaster]
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You guys are missing the obvious. Please sit down. Copy & paste.Merge with existing data
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#65173 - 04/02/10 04:36 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: silvertones]
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Good point John, but the fact is it used to work when merging two mono tracks ; it stayed mono. Now it changes to stereo, so why have the second 'merge two mono tracks to stereo' option?
The first one is obviously not functioning correctly..
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#65174 - 04/02/10 05:08 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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Still does. In PT however the PT dialog only allows the merge of 2 tracks were as the RB dialog allows the merge of multiple tracks thus I think the reason to merge to stereo.
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#65175 - 04/02/10 06:54 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: silvertones]
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There is still that stereo option though, right? There *should* be a merge that doesn't change the mono track format, when needed. I question how often it would be 'needed' but since you work in mono a lot I would think you'd agree.
Good wish-list item at the very least, but I can see contacting support and asking if they know it changed. May have slipped by with an improvement.
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#65176 - 04/02/10 08:09 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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Anybody tried setting the global record input option to mono L before attempting this?

Might change what you get, just a thought.


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#65177 - 04/03/10 03:34 AM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: Mac]
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Interesting concept - nope, hadn't thought of that!
Will try it though.
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#65178 - 04/03/10 06:34 AM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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Doesn't have anything to do with this thread really but I do everything in stereo I just don't pan anything left or right but it's still stereo.
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#65179 - 04/03/10 09:30 AM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: silvertones]
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John,
In your three songs thread I thought you said you mixed everything in mono?

Mac, this deosn't make a difference here, whether set to stereo left or right.
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#65180 - 04/03/10 11:59 AM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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I guess in this day and age there's really no real mono just stereo were both tracks are the same.
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#65181 - 04/03/10 04:59 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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Here's how I've often used PT with no problems: If I have a difficult guitar passage I sometimes break it up on several tracks, and when I'm satisfied with all my parts I merge 'em back into a single mono track.

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#65182 - 04/04/10 06:41 AM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: stratocaster]
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Cheater!

I hope they give it back to us, although cut/paste or copy/paste could be used for this as John mentioned
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#65183 - 04/05/10 12:14 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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If you merge two mono tracks (in PT) I have always had the notion that they would merge in accordance with the channels volume settings, where as a copy/paste won't take the volume setting into consideration?

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#65184 - 04/05/10 12:53 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: stratocaster]
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In PT this is true I believe, we were discussing Realband here though.

I usually use the gain change to adjust the volumes before merging. In all actuality I rarely merge anymore until the final mixdown, as todays machines can handle the multiple tracks without much problem so I leave the options open for down the road.
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#65185 - 04/05/10 04:40 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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That's true Rharv! My only reason for merging is to get a clearer overview over the takes, due to my "cheating" a single track may spread over so many tracks that I have a hard time remembering what they contain:-)

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#65186 - 04/05/10 04:54 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: stratocaster]
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If you are compiling tracks, it is often better to copy/paste paying attention to the checkboxes included in the pop up window. I think John mentioned this earlier.
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#65187 - 04/06/10 03:19 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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Why not just "arm" a new mono track, mute everything you don't want to merge,
then hit the record button and let it play through to get the ones you want on a new mono track.

(I'm not at home so I only assume this will work in RB)

Good luck!
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#65188 - 04/06/10 03:54 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: Lloyd S]
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For many soundcards the method Lloyd mentions will mean it gets run the the DA - AD conversion cycle again.
Effectively making it a second generation track. May be fine for some, may not for others.
Some soundcards allow it to happen in the digital domain.
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#65189 - 04/06/10 04:46 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: rharv]
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You are really making this hard on yourself. RB can merge any number of tracks all at once. Yes it will merge to a stereo file but who cares. You'll have two identical tracks. One will come out the left one out the right. It'll sound and act just like a mono file cause when you play a mono file the soundcard splits it to 2 stereo tracks anyway. You just can't see it.
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#65190 - 04/06/10 05:48 PM [RealBand] Re: Merge two audio tracks? [Re: silvertones]
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Well, not really, I guess it's because I have been doing it lots of times in PT I miss the function in RB :-)
By the way, I just got a similar answer from PG:

"When you merge the mono tracks, you'll see the merged track is a stereo
track but the L/R tracks are MONO. So in order to get a mono track out of
it:
[ Track > Split a stereo track into 2 mono tracks ]
Delete one of the mono tracks, and the stereo track

That should do it. Let us know if that doesn't work for you."

I consider it a work around and am sure that it will be remedied in future releases. Don't get me wrong, I'm really satisfied and content with RB, I had just gotten so used and delighted with PT that I compare everything to that :-)

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