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Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
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Hello ,
I just got a new Mac with the Apple M2 processor .
Does anyone know if BIB 2023 will work with the M2 .
The PG website was only showing the M1 chip last time I looked
at the system requirements . Can't find any mention of the newer M2
Thanks
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Yes, Band-in-a-Box runs on the M2 Macs... and very fast.
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
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Yes, Band-in-a-Box runs on the M2 Macs... and very fast. Thanks
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Ditto to what Andrew said. Fast and no issues on my mini M2 Pro.
Bud
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biab2023(Mac)
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It's good to know that BIAB works on M1 but I would also like to know if it runs natively on mac new M1 / M2.
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It's good to know that BIAB works on M1 but I would also like to know if it runs natively on mac new M1 / M2. Nope. It must be run over Rosetta 2. There are many threads and announcements from PG Music about this.
BIAB 2023 Audiophile, 24/60 Core M2 Mac Studio Ultra/8TB/192GB Sonoma, M1 MBAir, 2012 MBP
Digital Performer 11, LogicPro
Finale27.4, Dorico5, Encore5, SmartScorePro64, Notion6, Overture5
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Hi Mike (or anyone from PG Music)
Has it been officially announced that BIAB is being developed to be native on Apple Silicon?
When Apple launched the new processor line they stated that Rosetta 2 was only going to be supported for a few years, to provide developers with time to migrate their codebases.
I only have Apple Silicon Macs these days, and would like to know that my continued investment in BIAB is not a waste of money.
Cheers from Oz!
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The Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin is a universal binary, so can run natively on both Intel and Silicon machines.
The Band-in-a-Box main app runs natively on Intel, and runs on Silicon / M-series Macs via Rosetta 2 translation. Note that the user doesn't need to do anything to get the Rosetta thing to work, it is completely invisible. We do not currently have a timeline for a universal binary / native ARM version. As far as I am aware, Apple has not made any public announcement or provided any information to developers about an end of life for Rosetta 2, so the best we could do is speculate.
Both Band-in-a-Box and the Band-in-a-Box DAW plugin run significantly faster on Silicon machines than on Intel machines. For the plugin at least, this improved performance is much more significant than running the plugin native vs. Intel on the same M-series machine.
Andrew
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As I read:
AAPL is designing MAC OS to increasingly take advantage of Multi CPU and GPU processors.
Apparently LogicPro and Final Cut Pro currently deliver on this optimization
DaVinci Resolve (a non AAPL product) also mentions in their literature performance advantages of AAPL silicon vice Rosetta translation.
Rosetta is not part of this OS level strategy.
It would seem CPU intensive activities of BIAB (track regen for example) could well benefit from such OS enhancements.
I run BIAB on a MacMini M2Pro 32GB Ram 12/19 CPU/GPU. BIAB screams compared to the 2013 Intel Macbook Pro I ran it on.
Yet one can't help but feel BIAB on Mac/Rosetta is not firing on all cylinders.
Personally I hope PG Music will initiate a development effort before AAPL decides to sunset Rosetta and the process becomes a bit more of a scramble.
Certainly, a ground up rewrite is no small effort in time, money, people.
It's a serious long term commitment
A commitment to the Mac product some of user base would welcome.
biab2023(Mac)
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Thanks for the feedback Andrew, however it just makes me wonder about PG Music’s long term commitment to their loyal customers using Apple.
Here is Apple’’s official guidance to developers regarding Rosetta 2:
“Rosetta is a translation process that allows users to run apps that contain x86-64 instructions on Apple silicon,” its developer page reads. “Rosetta is meant to ease the transition to Apple silicon, giving you time to create a universal binary for your app. It is not a substitute for creating a native version of your app.”
Considering that Peter Gannon posted how Mac sales of BIAB have eclipsed Windows, I find it both baffling and concerning that development of a native version isn’t well under way.
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Personally i wouldn't fret to much yet. PGM has always kept up with the OS changes. and as PG said Mac is slowly taking an advantage, i would be shocked if that is not already being discussed. I am sure they will update us and the product when this begins to happen. Until then just use it as it is and enjoy the ride.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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