626,104 views Aug 9, 2023 When I first came across Oliver Anthony and his music, I was blown away to say the least. He had a whole collection of songs that I could listen to for hours. Oliver resides in Farmville, VA with his 3 dogs and a plot of land he plans on turning into a small farm to raise livestock. We have a whole mess of songs set to release of Oliver for your viewing and listening pleasure, he is truly special and notes his biggest influence as Hank Williams Jr. Oliver wants to give hope to the working class and your average hard working young man who may have lost hope in the grind of trying to get by. Contact Oliver at OliverAnthonyMusic@gmail.com https://www.youtube.com/@oliveranthonymusic/videos
The narrative script is utter rubbish. This bull about "woke" is a joke. Small Town is a joke too..all bile & not much of a song. The premise of the two videos...that had he been signed the song wouldn't have been released is silly...had tyhey not heard the song that wouldn't want to sign the man. Railing against the wealthy & corporations is nothing new, isn't bad either. There're plenty of critics of the establishment who have record deals with big & small labels. At least Woody tried to offer solutions. I like the recording, I can understand and empathise with most of the narrative as well. There's no reference to "woke" in the song just another right wing ding bats grabbing the song and the backstory to make a conservative point aimed at oppressing difference, keeping wages down, using unemployment as a leverage for low wages etc. The real gripe, as outlined in the song, is that a working person can't make a living while those with power & wealth squeeze even more of of them.. It is, after all, the conservatives who have the money and the power. I'm tired of the bull sprouted by the right and readily absorbed by many, many working folk. Same as it was when the Irish came to the goldfields, the Chinese came to the gold fields, the Italians, the Germans, the Eastern Europeans. Divide the working folk, turn them against the latest group of immigrants and distract them from the wiles of the wealthy. Same as it has been since newspapers, radio and TV...ie: mass communication has been carrying the message of its owners.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I didn't over think it, all I got was the wonderful heart and spirit of it all that resonated with me personally not just because of the resonator guitar, I'm sure that's why it resonates with millions and millions of others that have been through or going through deep emotional issues and suicide. It comes from a realm beyond politics.
I've been sellin' my soul... sorry not anymore, not even for 8 million.
That's I was reacting to the additional vid that attempts to recruit the song for Trumpist, right wing, antiwokeness. The song is about the human condition for the last couple of hundred years or so.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I watch those videos again to try and see what you mean, the first was reading his post, the next was John Rich saying about the big labels trying to get him, maybe John Rich has been caught up in it all and is speaking out. I did not here about Trumpist or right wing. I did hear Kim Clement say about Trump back in 2007 that was long before things even happened over in the US. I remember I walk passed a TV set back in 2016 and the news was saying there was an election in the US and that the Clinton is set to win because they are way ahead in the polls, I said no that guy will win and just kept walking without a thought. The next time I saw the news saying that Trump conspired with Russia and I said that is BS and kept walking on pass the TV. This is just the bleeding obvious thing to me now, sure when these things first happen you think wow I saw that and it happened, you knew who was on the phone before they even ring, you dream about something and it happens the next day. I told someone who was going to win the Melbourne Cup, one of them bet and won and the other didn't bet as they didn't believe it. I have heard so many other things that have come to pass that were heard long before they happened. This is a normal thing for those that have been through life threatening situations being dead or close to it and going through much suffering, your soul opens up to it all. The wokeness they talk about comes through academia, it's the blind leading the blind with these ideas. I heard about the fall of that beer company due to wokeness long before I knew the name was a beer company, I thought it was an earth moving company Any tiny babies that come out of university with these injected woke ideas in them soon wake up when they are told they have terminal cancer and nothing can be done to help them, it's only then after going through years of suffering and getting actual wisdom and understanding that true healing kicks in along with empathy, compassion and loss of materialism. The is the true education that you pay a very high price for, maybe even your life. Until then we judge things with our university education, physical sensors and what's been stored up. There is no way I would go back to not knowing anything and being young and healthy, that's what I call death at it's best because there is zero awareness of anything else.
Dude, really? The collusion? It's a matter of degree - they may have done all they did simply because he was better for them but he did ask them, publicly, to dig into her emails & Manafort did send material/stats/info etc. to Russian operatives. He was pardoned for it - nut you have to be guilty & convicted to be pardoned. The beer company didn't fall...it was targetted by a bunch of meatheads for one of it's brews having had some LGBTI+ publicity. The way you use the term woke is worrying. What it DID mean was being awake & aware of other folk...as in I woke up and realized...it's "with empathy, compassion". University has always been unreal in many way. The academic learning does need real world exposure & context - I doubt any one would argue against that.
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Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I think you are still missing the whole point of it all, all these things were seen long before they happened, the real news before the news, how does that work ? how is that even possible ? Are you getting your information from the news and your sensors ? Do the msm tell you the truth, do the 3 letter agencies, mockingbird media tell you the truth ? are you able to bet your life on what they tell you ? If people's life and their family's absolutely depended on finding the truth would they be more discerning of things rather than looking at it as simple politics, taking this side or that side, like supporting different football teams ? It goes back to the guy dying, the media can't help him, politicians can't help him, Dr Fauci certainly can't help him, he has to look deeper because he is forced to, he has not got the luxury to say she'll be right mate I will still go to work tomorrow and get paid, I can go to parties with friends, I can still eat normally, I can still walk normally, I can still breath normally. Death is life and life is death with no awareness. Those that have been on the other side of death all see the same thing and know what's going on and what's to come, no matter what country they live in they will all tell you the same thing. "that which is born flesh is flesh, that which is born spirit is spirit"
It's the same deal as Biab, most just work with what they have and know about Biab, but I look at it and say this ain't right it needs to work better, so I go a lot deeper into it than most users that just accept this is how it is and work with what they have. You have to dig deep to get the truth, this is what I liken it to below, those that can't see the deeper things attack those that can. Nonsense and ignore to one person but a profound understanding to another, they BLOCK it out because it's best to remain ignorant:
Originally Posted By: musocity
Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Originally Posted By: DebMurphy
When I was looking for a DAW was when this forum started to light up with coding to get something to work with Reaper and Band In A Box.
...Deb
Sorry to hear that, unfortunately we have no control over all that nonsense.
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Originally Posted By: TRYUK
I was wondering, is there the option to BLOCK someone?
Yes. If you click on the user's name (upper left of a post), then View Profile, you will see an option to Ignore This User.
Originally Posted By: DebMurphy
Ohhhh, Thank you, Matt. Ignore works wonders!
...Deb
if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
These are the original solo sections from a Biab track. Any section I can extend or shorten the original playing. If you watch the video where you have the gaps you can manually merge so there's no stop, you can't do that with a consolidated wav or in Biab now how it is: Reaper-RT-Solo-Extend.mp4
Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
>MusoCity: If you could do the same in Biab/RealBand/Plugin as I can do in Reaper with the track sections it will further improve Biab to allow for more creativity control
Agreed, and this is something planned for BB2024 (and BiaB plug-in w/DAWS like Reaper that support these track sections). This will open up lots of additional options when customizing solos and other tracks.
Because of the forum lighting up with "coding"
As I have said, long after I have gone users will be using all these features and functions, including those complaining about me posting stuff and telling the truth ! If they don't want to use them out of spite I can make up a list of things in Biab and BBPlugin from over the 14 years that they can avoid, or better still just use the 2009 version: Band-in-a-Box® Version 2009 and 2009.5 Update - Build 288
Things can change in an instant to bring understanding, you may have a flat tyre then....
I don't take my "news" from any one source. I pay attention to what conservative media offers as well as "liberal" media. I watch, read, and try to avoid bias confirmation as well as echo chambers. I attempt to critically analyse the "news" in terms of what is is and isn't, in terms of what an outlet choses to cover and what it avoids then what it hides or defends.
I'm old, I've done many years of union work alongside my employment but I also called out my union, often, when they weren't doing what was needed or the needed to take another look of their policies and focus.
I agree with you regarding that particular thread and the many threads that contain whines but no way forward from a majority of the participants.
The song in question is a whine. It offers no way forward. It demonises others further down the slippery pole than the songwriter. The fellow, who doesn't even use his real name, is a right wing pundits best tool & distractor.
"You take a very personal slant on things sir. " Yes it's not a main stream narrative. "I like the recording, I can understand and empathise with most of the narrative as well. There's no reference to "woke" in the song just another right wing ding bats grabbing the song and the backstory to make a conservative point... " "The song in question is a whine. It offers no way forward. It demonises others further down the slippery pole than the songwriter. The fellow, who doesn't even use his real name, is a right wing pundits best tool & distractor."
"I attempt to critically analyse the "news" in terms of what is is and isn't, in terms of what an outlet choses to cover and what it avoids then what it hides or defends." You are using your left brain. "Here's a better analysis.." again left brain, left brain is eating from the tree of good and evil, it knows nothing of the tree of life, nothing, unless it be born of spirit. "theguardian" ? of the truth ? lol someone else posted a guardian link replying to something else I posted trying to set me on the right path, the name says it all, it exposes it "The Gods of this world has blinded..so that they cannot see the light". Again the guy dying, will "theguardian" help him and set him straight, will the university graduated/indoctrinated reporters show him the light ?
The song is a marker, a catalyst, it's a signal of things to come. Again, the things that have been show will happen as they have been happening, whether it's smoke over the east coast, beer companies going broke or someone falling on live TV that will signal a larger fall or the many other things. It can't do anything else but that. No amount of beautiful, authoritatively speaking MSM news anchors can change it.
A catalyst...no, more like a cyst - a reaction, a symptom not a detonator. If it were a signal of things to come - of punching down on welfare recipients, of decrying foreign aid, of whining with no solutions - it's a late rebroadcast because all of it was covered by the last LNP Federal govt.: they championed what he offers. You seem hell bent on not reading my post but interpreting it. I read yours, I consider, I look things up before responding. Your modern life is rubbish perspective isn't an isolated one. Your use of all the mod cons of coding etc. shows that you take what works for you and that you offer solutions to some problems - fabulous solutions. Left Brain/Right Brain/Concrete/Abstract/Visual/Intuitive/Auditory/Fidget Spinner/AD/HD. I don't take the Guardian as a gospel, I did try to make that clear, but I do trust Billy Bragg who happened to be in the Guardian so an easy link to non fire walled information. Your "analysis" of my response isn't an analysis but a matching of talking points. I'm not interested in setting you on "the right path". I am interested in balance in a conversation/debate/discourse so offered some. "The revolution will not be televised - it will be..." "The Revolution will not be on Truth Social..." "The Revolution will not be via Telegram..."
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I haven't read this entire thread but I'll comment on verse 1.
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day Dude, most people I know have worked all day for decades and decades until their 60s or beyond; get over it man you don't even look 40! I started working all day at age 10 raking neighbors' leaves in the Fall and shovelling their driveways in the Winter for less than minimum wage. No one has seen me whine and cry.
Overtime hours for bullshit pay OK, so why haven't you invested in your education and skills matrix? Let me guess, you hate school and any form of instruction.
So I can sit out here and waste my life away This is your choice boy. Pull up on your bootstraps. What's that? You don't have any? Then kill a deer and make some.
Drag back home and drown my troubles away Do you really think spending 30% of your take-home pay on beer will improve your station in life?
Bottom Line: If you can't make it in these United States brother, you can't make it anywhere.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
"..it was covered by the last LNP Federal govt..."
I voted for Hawkie an Rudd, I saw Shorten go grey waiting for so long to get in, I wanted Al Gore to get in, I was happy when Obama got in, but this is all beyond politics what's happening now and goes into spiritual things. Those that are spiritually connected see what the story is. I try hard to lift you out of the physical thing by talking about death and those of us that have tasted it. If I talk about Biab injector depths and people don't understand, how much more will they not understand if I talk about spiritual things ? With all 4 of those songs there is a deeper spirit in them that is recognize, it's on another level, not by analyzing with your head but with your soul. As I said there will be shaking, shock and awe, this is needed for those that haven't waken already. It all depends on our level of sensitivity, I have no problem as my sensitivity level is way up on 100 most others operate on 10 until they go through some trauma and suffering, life support machines or NDE etc...
"...a deeper spirit in them that is recognize, it's on another level, not by analyzing with your head but with your soul...
AND THAT is the zone propaganda aims for. When I 1st heard the song I liked it...though it a bit whiney but liked it. I looked at the lyrics and instantly disliked them because of the bits that "seemed" snuck in under the cover of the general theme and gusto. National Anthems are intended to appeal to the spiritual, sacred, traditional aspects of the citizenry. That's why they go full bore and it works - lots of folk are sucked in by them - along with having been indoctrinated with them. All the big dictators & authoritarians appeal to deep feelings, usually bad ones, and do it very successfully. Hawke? I knew he was a con but he had some success...it didn't last once the "accord" had given business what it wanted they abandoned it. Rudd? Great start but not prepared for the long haul. Gillard - white anted and Abbotted, (with the help of dweebs like Angry Anderson), plus was ill advised on school funding. Shorten? He wasn't bad but he wasn't good - he's been a fab minister though. Albanese? He's looking, too much, to the long game, to getting re-elected to make long form change but may lose because his short game is all about avoiding being wedged. PLUS we traded can't say TH Bill for can't say TH Tony. Whitlam and Barnard were brave, reckless and made changes that changed the nation for the good, in the main.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
It can be instructive and even eye-opening (if "open" constitutes any part of your being) to hear what the artist/writer actually intended...
Originally Posted By: CNN
... the singer addressed his song having been played at this week’s 2024 Republican presidential primary debate, saying that he found it “funny” because the song “is written about the people on that stage.”
“The one thing that has bothered me is seeing people wrap politics up into this,” Anthony said. “It’s aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me, like I’m one of them. It’s aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians act like we’re buddies and act like we’re fighting the same struggle here, like that we’re trying to present the same message.”
...rather than looking at it as simple politics, taking this side or that side, like supporting different football teams ? It goes back to the guy dying, the media can't help him, politicians can't help him, Dr Fauci certainly can't help him, he has to look deeper because he is forced to, he has not got the luxury to say she'll be right mate I will still go to work tomorrow and get paid, I can go to parties with friends, I can still eat normally, I can still walk normally, I can still breath normally...
Originally Posted By: musocity
..but this is all beyond politics what's happening now and goes into spiritual things...
That's why I posted the video above "It's a pleasure to meet you - part 2" so you get it from the horses mouth, not MSM Guardian CNN Fox spinning one way or another with selective editing ("The Gods of this world has blinded..so that they cannot see the light") as stated below:
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I do hate to see that song being weaponized like I see I see the right trying to characterize me as one of their own and I see the left trying to um trying to discredit me I guess in retaliation uh that sh!t's gotta stop
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I do feel compelled to address something since I have addressed the conservatives I do need to address the left as well because they're sending a message out that that that initial song that sort of shot me up the radar Richmond north of Richmond is is an attack against the poor..
Originally Posted By: Oliver Anthony
well hey there it's August 25th 2023 A lot's changed since the last time I sat here and spoke to you um my friends and family have asked me how I'm doing everybody is wondering if I'm uh if I've lost my sanity yet and I'm surprisingly calm and at peace I've I don't even know what to say but I I feel thankful to be given this opportunity um you know the music side is exciting and all the billboard iTunes charts and all that crap that's great but uh which the exciting part's been the conversations I've had with people and the things I've learned just in a couple weeks about um about the human spirit and and about all sorts of other things the music industry and and how how dirty everything is like it's it's worse than you think so I don't know what the future looks like for me I'm not really too concerned about the future I'm living in the present and I'm I just have to have I just have to have the discernment to make the right decisions from here on out because um I think about that guy who was sitting here a few weeks ago talking to you and uh uh the most important thing and the most important thing to me is not leaving him behind I don't want to go on some roller coaster ride and come off a different person uh if there is anything for me to address at all with you it's that uh uh you know it's the one thing that has bothered me is seeing people rap politics up into this uh I'm disappointed to see like it's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them it's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians act like we're buddies and and act like we're fighting the same struggle here like that we're trying to present the same message you know I've had a lot of people reach out to me and I tried to be polite to everybody and um I've talked to hundreds of people the last two weeks it seems like certain people want to just ride the attention of the song to maybe make them their own selves relevant and that's aggravating as hell the other thing that I find aggravating is uh well you know like it was funny seeing my song in the it was fun it was funny seeing it at the presidential debate because it's like I wrote that song about those people you know so for them to have to sit there and listen to that that cracks me up uh but it was funny kind of seeing the response to it like that song has nothing to do with Joe Biden you know it's a lot bigger than Joe Biden um that song is written about the people on the on that stage and a lot more too not just them but but definitely them it's cool seeing some of my other music come out because people are I guess starting to appreciate and understand what it is I'm really trying to say it's hard to get a message out about about your political ideology or your belief about the world in three minutes and some change um but I hate I do hate to see that song being weaponized like I see I see the right trying to characterize me as one of their own and I see the left trying to um trying to discredit me I guess in retaliation uh that sh!t's gotta stop if you watch the response videos on YouTube to this song it's not conservative people responding to the song it's not even necessarily Americans responding to the song um I don't know that I've seen anything get such positive response from such a diverse group of people and I think that terrifies the people that I sing about in that song and they've done everything they can the last two weeks to make me look like a fool to spend my words to try to stick me in a political bucket and they can keep trying but I'm just going to keep on writing and I've got a lot of words to put down on paper and I've got I've got a lot of songs to put the chords and um I don't know what my music career is going to look like I don't know how many shows I'm gonna do and how many tours I'm gonna put on but I am going to stay true to my word I'm I'm gonna write I'm going to write produce and distribute authentic music that represents people and not politics I do feel compelled to address something since I have addressed the conservatives I do need to address the left as well because they're sending a message out that that that initial song that sort of shot me up the radar Richmond north of Richmond is is an attack against the poor if you listen to my other music it's obvious that all of my songs that reference class defend the poor uh dog on it's a good example of that needles in the street folks hardly surviving on sidewalks next to highways full of cars self-driving the poor keep hurting in the rich keep thriving it's like that's what I like to sing about and you know the English language is interpretive and so I do understand like there may be some people who who misunderstood my words in Richmond north of Richmond but I've got to be clear that my message like with any of my songs it references the inefficiencies of the government because of the politicians within it that are engulfed in bribes and extortion and you know the words say that there's people on the street with nothing to eat in the obese milk and Welfare that references a news article I read earlier this Summer that adolescent kids in Richmond are missing meals over the summer because their parents can't afford to feed them and they're not in school to eat cafeteria lunch and meanwhile I think like 30 or 40 percent of the food bought with welfare or EBT money is um is in a classification of like snack food and soda I think 10 spit on soda and I want to say like 20 or 30 percent spent on junk food and that's not the fault of those people uh welfare only makes up a small percentage of our budget you know we can if we can fuel a proxy war in a foreign land but we can't take care of our own that's all the songs trying to say it's just saying that the government takes people who are needy dependent and makes them needy independent and at some point I will dissect all my lyrics of all my songs if that's what I need to do I mean 30 some million people understood what I was saying but it only takes a few to try to uh derail the train you know to try to send out false narratives and I'm sure there'll be more of that to come it's like uh it's driving people crazy to see the unity that's come from this from all walks this isn't a Republican and Democrat thing this isn't even a a United States thing like this has been a Global Response and don't let anybody tell you otherwise go on YouTube and watch all the response videos you know and don't shoot the messenger like I'm a nobody it's my belief that divine intervention has put me in this position and this point in time to get a message across and that's all there is to it like I'm nobody special you know I I feel terrible almost that I've been put in this place because there there are a lot of artists and musicians out there that are far more talented that have put in way more hours than me like I don't deserve I don't deserve to sit in the top five places on the iTunes charts and the truth is I really could give a sh!t less about the iTunes charts what I care about is connecting with people what I care about is sh!t I don't I don't know what this country is going to look like in 10 or 20 years if things don't change I don't know what this world's gonna look like and like something has to be done about it you know there's been too many people die there's been too many people sacrifice everything they've had people die before they even before they're even 18 you know just sit for us to all sit here and just do the stupid sh!t it is that we do every day that keeps us all all beat down and divided like that's what I want to see stop and I'm gonna do everything I can to influence that at all costs even if it does um even if it does throw my world upside down it's what it's well worth it but for now I'm hanging in there and I'm I'm doing what I can and I I really appreciate everybody who's along for the ride so uh there's a lot more to come and I'm excited for it and I'll see you on the next one
oh it's crazy to me because uh I remember back in June I played here for about 20 people and um but that's that's the beautiful part of this country though is even an idiot like me can make something happen so if I can do it you can do it [Applause] before we start singing and I mean we because I hope you all are going to be singing too [Applause] I just had something I felt compelled to share with you [Music] this is in a song Psalm 37 12-20 the wicked plot against the righteous and gnashed their teeth at them but the Lord laughs at the wicked for he knows their day is coming the wicked draw the sword and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy to sway those whose ways are upright but their swords will pierce their own hearts and their bows will be broken better the little that have righteousness than the wealth of many Wicked for the power of the wicked will be broken but the Lord upholds the righteous the blameless spend their days under the Lord's care and their inheritance will endure forever in times of disaster they will not wither a days of famine they will have plenty but the Wicked Will perish though the Lord's enemies are like the flowers of the field they will be consumed and they will go up and smoke
"Well, if it weren't for my old dogs and the good Lord They'd have me strung up in the psych ward 'Cause every day livin' in this new world Is one too many days to me" How do you learn that in a university ? you can't because you are groomed to fit into the new world with blind leading the blind ideas, to go straight into media, politics, government..."just doin' what the rich men say"
The fact that he sat with Jordan Petersen shows his willingness to rub shoulders with the worst sort of "influencer"&/or naivety. His claiming that leaving issues to Jesus to sort is the right path means his song, even by his own measure is pointless & therefore a whine. I shan't be shocked when he does a take with Andrew Tate.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I absolutely Love It ! All that's happening I saw years back, it's Big, Very, Very Big. It's all playing out verbatim as I have shown. What were those lyrics in Knopfler's Industrial Disease ? They're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
I want my I want my I want my C N N
Look what's happened to poor Canada, I used to love it, I was invited over there recently but had to say no as I saw what's been happening over there because Canadians are so polite and don't speak up and out. It's much the same in Australia where most just go along as they are used to it, being a penal colony it's partially genetics and partially cultural. When the US is taken back watch everything change world wide, I saw massive celebrations in the street like when the US liberated France. The world follows the US. That's why the world is **&^( up right now. Watch it all be exposed and cleaned out on both sides of politics, watch governments fall, watch all the resignations, justice and vindication brought forth.
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"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
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Aug 9, 2023
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