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So 3 guys walk into a bar. One named Ring Tone, another named Rinky Tink Piano and a third named Sonic Disruption. Q. What do they all have in common? A. They each ain’t got a friend! Ha Ha 
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As I mentioned, experiment using a gate. You set it to exclude sound below a certain volume, and hope it leaves most of the good stuff intact. If you employ this over the one or two-second snippet, it might not even be noticed.
On the other hand, it took some targeted attention to even hear it in the first place.
About why this is there, does anyone here actually have the original recording to see if this is on that?
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So 3 guys walk into a bar. One named Ring Tone, another named Rinky Tink Piano and a third named Sonic Disruption. Q. What do they all have in common? A. They each ain’t got a friend! Ha Ha Yeah, OK. But what color are they?
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The phrase "...winter spring summer or Fall, All you got to do IS CALL..." is repeated starting at 1:22. A little cut and paste should allow you to eliminate the artifact.
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About why this is there, does anyone here actually have the original recording to see if this is on that?
I've been wrong before, but I'd be VERY surprised if this gremlin is on the original Tapestry album. No way could such a glitch make it past all the artists, recording engineers, mastering people, producers, marketing people and others involved on that album. As a matter of fact, if I look hard enough in my music library I think I can find another example of this. FWIW, here is what my AI bot says on the subject. " I couldn’t find any information about glitches or artifacts in the album Tapestry by Carole King. However, the album was certified 13× Platinum by RIAA and it is one of the best-selling albums of all time, with over 25 million copies worldwide. It received four Grammy Awards in 1972, including Album of the Year.
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About why this is there, does anyone here actually have the original recording to see if this is on that?
I've been wrong before, but I'd be VERY surprised if this gremlin is on the original Tapestry album. No way could such a glitch make it past all the artists, recording engineers, mastering people, producers, marketing people and others involved on that album...." Maybe. But remember the state of audio quality back then.
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When I pressed it a bit more I get this.
"It is possible that glitches or artifacts may appear on an “Official” video on YouTube. There are many reasons why this could happen, such as issues with the video’s encoding or compression, problems with the video player, or even issues with your internet connection."
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So.... I listened closely, using my good ear buds. No one has gotten the correct answer yet.
As professional and particular as Carol King was with her music and the professional players on her sessions, it is doubtful that anything in there is a gremlin or an easter egg or whatever. If it's there, it is there on purpose. And yes, it's there, and it is actually supposed to be there. Listen to it again.... Carefully.
In the first place where "is call" happens (1:29) you can hear an acoustic guitar run occur in the left channel. It's very low in the mix
In the second instance where "is call" occurs (3:05) there is nothing going on with the acoustic guitar. I didn't hear it in the second one.
In the third instance at (4:13) you can clearly hear the acoustic guitar play the same/similar run as in the first instance however this time it is played in a more aggressive manner. There are more highs in the tone and that makes it sound like the "gremlin" you thought you were hearing.
In listening to this, the only thing I found that was "out of sorts" was the out of tune....slightly sharp.... bass. Not all the way through, but in some places. listen at 1:41. I tried to look it up but this sounds like it might have been an upright bass and that would be par for the course to not hit the notes dead on. Song character and yeah... fixing that would not improve the song itself in the least bit and most people will never notice it anyway.
So no..... it's not a glitch. Listen carefully and I think you will agree. It's an acoustic guitar playing what it's supposed to play.
I think I have the original on vinyl. I'll check it out and report back.
Check Back: I couldn't find that album in my collection. Doesn't mean it isn't there... I just haven't found it. I have to rearrange my vinyl into alphabetical order by artist and it's badly out of sync from my move to the studio 6 years ago. Yeah, I can absolutely be THAT lazy.
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Why? So I can operate on the audio in my DAW.
I don't know this is not possible. I know this is possible. There's a disconnect that no one except I has addressed. What you showed does not convert video to mp3 because, as I stated correctly, it cannot be done. Telling us that you are doing it doesn't change this. Try using Real Player to compress the video—per the settings you have checked—and save as a copy. Now go back to the original file but this time, check the box for Export as Audio only. There are many apps that will compress this file to mp3. You want VBR (variable bit rate) these days. Now strip the audio from that compressed video and substitute your new mp3. See if the result is not more to your liking. I am not up on the free and cheapware for Windows. A commercial app with telephone support that does everything you need is Adobe Premiere Elements. This link is to the Adobe site and you can download a 30 day evaluation. There are resellers who offer better pricing with or without Photoshop Elements bundle – if you can get EDU pricing, so much the better. For three years during the pandemic, I averaged 2–5 videos a week for my church clients and every one had the audio processed separately. There are no subscriptions — use the permanent license till it just doesn't do the job anymore then buy the latest version. I used Premiere Elements 2018 till a few months ago when I updated to 2023.
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I am wondering if Bass Thumper means extract the audio from a video and convert to a MP3? I do this all the time in Studio One Pro. I can import the video track and extract the audio to a track of it's own. Then simply export the audio to a MP3. Just a thought.
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There's a disconnect that no one except I has addressed. What you showed does not convert video to mp3 because, as I stated correctly, it cannot be done. Telling us that you are doing it doesn't change this. Mike, I'm baffled as to why you can't comprehend this. Consider these 3 quotes.Features of RealPlayer include a video download utility, a web browser, visualizations (graphical animations or "light shows" that appear on the screen when playing music), equalizer and video controls (including Crossfade and Gapless playback in RealPlayer Plus), recording audio, CD ripping, and a media converter which allows converting files to a variety of common audio and video formats. Source: Wikipedia But I don't need Wikipedia to tell me this, I have megabytes of audio on my hard drive all of it converted from video to audio by RealPlayer.Yes, RealPlayer can convert videos to audio. You can convert your downloaded videos to .mp3 files which will put these songs in the music view of your RealPlayer Library. From there you can create a playlist or burn a CD. You can convert immediately after download or in RealPlayer Library. In the RealPlayer Library, right-click on the video you want to convert. Select Edit > Convert. Click the field under “Convert to…”. Under Audio Formats, select MP3. Click OK. Source: AI assistant But I don't need an AI bot to tell me this is possible, I've been successfully using RealPlayer to convert video to audio for years.How can I take the music from a video and make an .mp3 file?
Converting your downloaded videos to .mp3 files will put these songs in the music view of your RealPlayer Library. From there you can create a playlist or burn a CD.
Convert immediately after download:
In the RealDownloader window, move the mouse over a downloaded video in the list.
Click Convert to MP3. Source: https://customer.real.com/hc/en-us/articles/204295208-Convert-music-videos-to-audio-tracksBut I don't need the RealPlayer support page to tell me this is possible. I'm an expert at it. Btw, most anyone can be an expert in doing this, it's cake-walk easy.There are many apps that will compress this file to mp3. You want VBR (variable bit rate) these days. Now strip the audio from that compressed video and substitute your new mp3. See if the result is not more to your liking. My method using RealPlayer is already to my liking. In fact, RealPlayer is so good at it that it will even convert unwanted gremlins in the base video.I am not up on the free and cheapware for Windows. A commercial app with telephone support that does everything you need is Adobe Premiere Elements. This link is to the Adobe site and you can download a 30 day evaluation. There are resellers who offer better pricing with or without Photoshop Elements bundle – if you can get EDU pricing, so much the better. You may not be up to "free and cheapware for Windows", and more power to you. However I am up for a selected few freeware programs for Windows. RealPlayer is one of them. For three years during the pandemic, I averaged 2–5 videos a week for my church clients and every one had the audio processed separately. There are no subscriptions — use the permanent license till it just doesn't do the job anymore then buy the latest version. I used Premiere Elements 2018 till a few months ago when I updated to 2023. Not interested in Adobe Premiere Elements (at this time). RealPlayer meets all of my video to audio conversion needs. And it has met these needs for years.
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I am wondering if Bass Thumper means extract the audio from a video and convert to a MP3? I do this all the time in Studio One Pro. I can import the video track and extract the audio to a track of it's own. Then simply export the audio to a MP3. Just a thought. Nope. All 3 quotes I give above use the term "convert" or "converting" not "extract". They use the term convert, so I use the term convert. In any event, RealPlayer does this well.
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Steve, I think Mike in his always helpful and positive way might have been more interested in making sure the terminology was the most important thing learned here, whereas the rest of us seemed to somehow understand what you meant and were primarily interested in helping you solve the problem.
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Y'all are arguing over technical issues.
It's not a technical glitch.
It's an acoustic guitar you are hearing and it's supposed to be there.
Listen again...carefully.
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I'm not arguing.
I listened carefully, gave an opinion, and then asked if anyone had the original recording.
For whatever reason, the OP apparently wanted it gone. I answered how he might accomplish that, and Dan offered another method.
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Not interested in Adobe Premiere Elements (at this time). RealPlayer meets all of my video to audio conversion needs. And it has met these needs for years.
In any event, RealPlayer does this well. From reading this thread and your complaints, I don't think so — or you don't know what you are doing — or you are not understanding what people are telling you as they try to help. My vote? All 3 are correct. BTW, not only do I have the copy of Tapestry that I bought in high school when first released, I also have the MFSL half-speed vinyl. CDs weren't on the market yet for either release. YouTube process audio when uploaded—even the official releases. This often adds artifacts and distortion. Further processing cannot make the signal better— ever—but can certainly make it worse. This is why I recommended getting ahold of an original copy and bouncing that down. "You Got a Friend at 44.1kHz/16bit on the 2008 remastered CD is 54.7MB .wav file. It's 9.1MB as a VBR mp3 and 4.2 as 128k mp3. mp3 settings are Joint Stereo, best quality. I also have it as a 27.5MB m4a ALAC for iTunes. The sound is barely acceptable at 128. I bounced these down last year as I prepared the music for my 50th high school reunion so no new work here. I do all of these bounces in TwistedWave where I have control over every aspect if I need. A digital capture of the "Official…" audio from YouTube reveals a 9.9MB m4a file as expected. It is bass heavy compared with other versions and there are a number of artifacts — but they match noises from James Taylor's guitar, percussion or damper noises from the piano. The 128k that I did has many of the same noises but they are more musical when bounced from a much cleaner recording; the bass is much better on the 128k, also. Likewise, the 128k mp3 bounced from "Official…" YouTube m4a is crap. I get that, because the tools I use cost a little money, you won't consider them. I, however, am not the one with the problem.
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Y'all are arguing over technical issues.
It's not a technical glitch.
It's an acoustic guitar you are hearing and it's supposed to be there.
Listen again...carefully. +1
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Please go back and review the original request. He said "but it's bothersome enough to me". It does not matter what the sound is. It does not matter how it was recorded, uploaded, or converted to audio etc. He said he wants the sound gone. I gave a method to do that. So did Dan.
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I get that, because the tools I use cost a little money, you won't consider them. I, however, am not the one with the problem.
Mike, you are still not getting it. It's not about the money. It's about your credibility. You cannot tell me that I can't convert video to audio using RealPlayer. Just like you cannot insist that 3+1=0. If you do you've lost credibility in the eyes of anyone with a properly functioning brain. News Flash: There is something called "truth" and it's far bigger than you and me and everyone else on this planet. Over the years, hundreds if not thousands of RealPlayer users worldwide have converted video to audio using RealPlayer. Dude, it's a no-brainer. Why are you having such difficulty grasping this and the above 3 quotes??? My time is too valuable to continue this anymore with you. What are you going to tell me next, that the earth is flat or that photosynthesis is a hoax?
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He said "but it's bothersome enough to me". The gremlin lives somewhere between 5 and 10 kHz. The best I've been able to do is put a -24dB notch at 7kHz with a Q = 0.9 This doesn't entirely remove it but it's less bothersome. Any significantly different center frequency or Q value steps on her vocals too much and the "cure" becomes worse than the "disease".
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