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I know this not really a concern for most users but I'm just looking down the track at a sustainable way. Looking at a multiple platform version on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS and Android, as well as VST, VST3, AU, AUv3, AAX and LV2 plug-ins rather than in 2040 still seeing a Win version released then 6 months later a Mac version. Maybe with AI now code will soon be able to be translated easily ? Delphi code to C++ to JUCE Port Delphi to C++ gradually: I have a large application written in Delphi. I want to renew it, starting with the user interface. That was 14 years ago, wonder how he went ? This was 9 years ago when I suggested: programming language upgrade delphi to c++ I'm waiting to see the BBPlugin 2024 that should give an idea of the way things will go depending on what state that is at now. Hopefully it should have all the generate code contained within the JUCE and to play the wma files direct like sforzando will give much hope, but playing the wma files direct from the bbw4 wav instructions, or with not much change how it is now will not be very encouraging. This will be a good indicator of the future of BIab, let's hope it's all good.
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I think BIAB should create more realistic tracks for more modern electronic music.
House, Dance, Trap, making everyone feel like they are using modern electronic music, will be great.
In fact, WINDWOS is very good, and buying a computer to try various real tracks is not a big problem.
The biggest problem with BIAB now is that there is a lot of traditional music inside, which feels too much. Although it is also very pleasant to listen to, it can give people a lack of modernity in the first place.
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The biggest problem with BIAB now is that there is a lot of traditional music inside, which feels too much. Although it is also very pleasant to listen to, it can give people a lack of modernity in the first place. "Modernity" or not doesn't really matter to me, and I don't think it's too much traditional music in general - but way too much (North) American traditional music! That's certainly really nice for people from the US and from Canada, but does the rest of the world really need that much Country and that much Bossa and that much Blues and that much (American) Jazz...? I'd love to see them hiring some European guys for more/real European music!
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[...but does the rest of the world really need that much Country and that much Bossa and that much Blues and that much (American) Jazz...?
I'd love to see them hiring some European guys for more/real European music! I fully agree with that. BIAB is very North America-centric, though I guess that's fairly understandable given that PGM are a company on the North American continent. As a Brit I virtually do not use Country, virtually do not use Pop, am more likely to use Blues in a jazz context than in a Blues context, and personally much more likely to use African styles than American styles. In PGM's context, we're in small minorities. I notice that difference particularly when people write in the fora about some famous musician passing and I think "who's he?". Even many regulars say there's "too much Brent Mason" and I'm afraid I have a similar reaction ... who? I expect some will gasp that I don't know, but that, for me, is the disconnect between us.
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My prediction, AI will help to re-write/translate at one point.
With 2024, most of my frustrations with BIAB are gone. Extremely fast track regeneration, Non modal MTP (Multipicker) Library where all content is available in one place, and other new items that help to compose more efficiently. My main wish for PGM is to fix most of known issues that are within the scope of reality handling real audio (RT's / RD's) and strongly consider a better UI and more intuitive menus.
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BIAB features hundreds of artists of wide specter of genres / cross genres. Instead of saying "gimme modern", I think a more productive approach would be to request something inline that was introduced in the past decades. For example, you find RT, RD, Style, etc. that you do like and request material similar to that. If you don't like any available material in BIAB, maybe you should start asking yourself uncomfortable question(s).
I do agree, that there should be a better genre balance, leaning center, and several genre/instruments that are very thinly represented.
I find useful, RT's/Midi recorded by Mike Durham, Sandy Williams, Miles Black, Jeff Lorber, Charlie Gannon (Peter, you need to convince your boy to do more!). Or something very particular, like a couple of baritone guitars by Brent Mason or Irish whistle by Geoffrey Kelly and many others. Personally I would like to have more of these type of tracks...
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I'd love to see them hiring some European guys for more/real European music! I agree. I think so too.
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My prediction, AI will help to re-write/translate at one point. At one point, yes, but I personally think AI is presently over-hyped and people have over-high expectations of it. Systems like ChatGPT are impressive, but use massive processing power, really to just glue together existing works that match a pattern. Of course I could also be wrong! If you don't like any available material in BIAB, maybe you should start asking yourself uncomfortable question(s). Indeed. That's probably a significant factor why many of us choose the bigger packages with huge bundles of stuff "we'll probably never use". Occasionally we'll find something that is off-the-wall, but works brilliantly.
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Occasionally we'll find something that is off-the-wall, but works brilliantly. For me personally, this is one of the worst things about the software. I think it possibly contains realtracks for every occasion that I would use, but can't find easily. I don't have time to search through thousands of badly organised styles and realtracks, one at a time, which is what needs to be done. The filtering and categorisation is beyond diabolical. Most other annoyances I can work around, although I'm finding that a bit of a challenge in 2024 if I'm honest. I guess I must use the software differently from everyone else because I seem to be the only one finding it all too unbearable.
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I don't have time to search through thousands of badly organised styles and realtracks, one at a time, which is what needs to be done. The filtering and categorisation is beyond diabolical. I agree so far that it's sometimes frustrating to find the exact thing that's on your mind; then again I really must say that it happened more than only a few times that I found something better just by chance; just by trying out styles with funny names! ^^ And that's something I love BIAB for; it has broadened my, let's say, "producer horizon" immensely. Yet I'd love to see more European stuff. As a Brit I virtually do not use Country Who in Europe (or Asia, or Africa...) does? Nothing against Country, but it's just too much. How about voting for a "Eupoean Edition" in 2025? ^^
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Just wonder, any BIAB user use the style maker in BIAB to create one's style?
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Personally, I'd like to see more of the traditional folk and bluegrass tracks if they're going to do country. Modern country is well-represented. It's been ages since there has been a significant upgrade in folk and bluegrass RTs and styles. Much of the bluegrass that's there is traditional and comes from the first group of RTs that were created. 3/4 and 6/8 time is under-represented in the genre, particularly with soloists.
I find jazz styles to be the most over-represented.
A style that is woefully under-represented is 80s pop and New Wave styles. Artists like Prince, Duran Duran, Talking Heads, The Romantics, etc.
And finally, many of you are correct that modern styles aren't well-represented either. The K-Pop, Hip-Hop, and even the modern pop genres that are represented aren't done very well. They feel more like an old guy like me who doesn't know the genres really well listened to a few recordings and said, "We can do that" and threw some stuff together. :-)
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I work (play?) a lot with creative AI. There is some excellent stuff being done with musical applications right now, but you have little to no control over the final product. For example, several sites will allow you to do prompt to music. A few of them provide good, clean tracks that are done well. However, your options are limited if you dislike something about the final render. But just a year ago, writing a text prompt to music yielded garbage.
My point is that AI technology sometimes increases by the day. The text-to-image creators a year ago yielded some laughable results: six fingers, limbs that bent the wrong way, warped faces, etc..It was impressive what it COULD do, but still the limitations rendered it useless for most applications of the technology in the real world. People like me might ooh and ah over it because we looked past what wasn't there and saw the possibilities. Fast forward a year, and now you can text-to-prompt, and if you don't like it, you can in-paint sections of the image, reroll the entire prompt, expand the canvas, set aspect ratios, etc. We even have text-to-video now that's imperceptible from actual video (in some cases), but the technology evolves rapidly. I think we'll see the same thing with music applications of the technology.
I would encourage PG to explore AI as well. Can you imagine how cool it would be if instead of searching for real tracks and them maybe fitting or maybe not, we could just type something like, "I'm looking for a guitar part in the style of 1960's R&B in the style of the Temptations, the Supremes, and Sam and Dave" and it will render several options for you in those exact styles. There would be no need to dedicate so much space to Real Tracks. Then, you could store them yourself and make personalized styles.
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I would encourage PG to explore AI as well. Can you imagine how cool it would be if instead of searching for real tracks and them maybe fitting or maybe not, we could just type something like, "I'm looking for a guitar part in the style of 1960's R&B in the style of the Temptations, the Supremes, and Sam and Dave" and it will render several options for you in those exact styles. There would be no need to dedicate so much space to Real Tracks. Then, you could store them yourself and make personalized styles. +1 And I hope PGMusic gets there before any of their competitors.
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A style that is woefully under-represented is 80s pop and New Wave styles. Artists like Prince, Duran Duran, Talking Heads, The Romantics, etc. And what about Krautrock? Glam Rock? Psychedelic Rock? Dirty early 80's Punk Rock? And finally, many of you are correct that modern styles aren't well-represented either. The K-Pop, Hip-Hop, and even the modern pop genres that are represented aren't done very well. They feel more like an old guy like me who doesn't know the genres really well listened to a few recordings and said, "We can do that" and threw some stuff together. :-) Haha, that's right. ^^ Anything modern & with synths almost always sound cheesy and cheap to me. Like I said: They should hire some European musicians for once.
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It's still rock and roll to me"
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One thought for those looking for more electronic, or other similar genres is hopefully the looping tools get the love they need to be finished and then you can access literally tens of thousands of loop-based music material.
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Like I said: They should hire some European musicians for once. +1 I agree with you
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It's still rock and roll to me" Thanks Billy 
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It's still rock and roll to me" Thanks Billy 
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Rather than dwell on what BIAB may have that you don’t use (even when others do), or how it got that way, take an active role to improve the offerings. Make a post in the Styles Wishlist. Give sample audio recordings. Include the names of artists who play it. Provide background or historical information to make your case.
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