Musocity, thanks but I'm not sure what you are doing there, is that using AHK? Also, I don't see the advantage if you are still clicking on it, or have you assigned your own shortcut?
......................... My understanding is that currently, BiaB is king of the mountain when it comes to computer-assisted music accompaniment and backing track production.
Steve that is a big generalization. That is may true, right now at least, with some audio music accompaniment,
Yes, it is a big generalization/opinion/understanding and I am certainly not aware of all the competing products out there. When I say "king of the mountain" part of that includes the high quality RTs, the breadth of styles available and the fact that it is chord-based. I'm slowly becoming aware of "loop software" and even some AI assisted programs but although some of these programs do sound good to my ears, many don't have the chord basis that BiaB has.
I do agree that there is a (steep?) learning curve with BiaB and it's a bit clunky/dated. Because of that I'm only using a fraction of what it can do. But being relatively new to music, that fraction is plenty good for me; so all is well. Moreover, I learned from you early on to "get out of BiaB as soon as you can" and do volume automation and other post-processing in your DAW. Early on I had massive problems with RealBand.
Are you aware of other programs that you would put in the same category as BiaB?
My limited understanding of MIDI is that you're moving rectangles around on your screen or capturing info from a connected controller that is physically played. Neither of these approaches necessarily captures a complete chord progression of an intro, verse, chorus, etc. BiaB does capture the progression in an intuitive spreadsheet-like grid, which is powerful. Even this guy says that BiaB is probably the "most capable program on the market".
Much of this is personal and everyone has their own workflow and is somewhere on their musical journey. Young people are very tech-savvy and could figure out BiaB. I wonder how many college-level music schools promote BiaB vs other software.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
There are a number of applications that do BIAB-like things, but I think none do all the things BIAB does.
Ones I use sometimes are iRealPro, JJazzLab and Impro-Visor. I'm pretty confident there are others. These three are all intended for practice and/or learning, rather than also doing smarter things. There are pros and cons.
Edit: iRealPro is tablet App that I can use just about anywhere, like at rehearsals or on my boat. The other two both run on Linux, which is quite important to me, though Impro-Visor has an odd quirk with mouse-cursors on my Linux system. It seems to be a Java-related oddity.
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Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11; Win8.1: Scarletts BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.
There are a number of applications that do BIAB-like things, but I think none do all the things BIAB does.
Ones I use sometimes are iRealPro, JJazzLab and Impro-Visor. I'm pretty confident there are others. These three are all intended for practice and/or learning, rather than also doing smarter things. There are pros and cons.
Thanks Gordon, I am unfamiliar with the programs you list. Just for grins I searched on JJazzLab and lo and behold the same guy did a mini review.
You're also confirming my "king of the mountain" sentiment when you say ". . . but I think none do all the things BIAB does". I'm even more convinced that we've hitched our wagons to the best tractor My main concern is that PGMusic stays at least 3 steps ahead of their rivals. The future is sure to bring increased competitive pressures.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Talk about a hi-jack - I posted a couple of issues wondering if others had seen them or if maybe my system needs a refresh. The ensuing discussion, save one reasonable response, is a ridiculous rant fest completely unrelated.
Talk about a hi-jack - I posted a couple of issues wondering if others had seen them or if maybe my system needs a refresh. The ensuing discussion, save one reasonable response, is a ridiculous rant fest completely unrelated.
Hi Bullmoon,
Thanks for pointing that out, yes I agree many of the posts are completely off topic.
I can duplicate the bug with saving a song while the song memo is open. However, the other issues I wasn't able to reproduce yet. It may have to do with some specific audio driver settings, and/or specific settings in your song files. It would most likely not be specific to the 'Audiophile version'. What audio driver type do you have selected? Options are WAS, MME, or ASIO. WAS is the default.
B) If you continue to have the problems, post a link to a song file, or send it to support@pgmusic.com referencing this forum thread, Attn Andrew. Ideally a frozen song file.
You could either follow-up with more info in this thread, or start a new thread.
Everyone else, please start a new thread if you are posting about something different from the OP's question.
Talk about a hi-jack - I posted a couple of issues wondering if others had seen them or if maybe my system needs a refresh. The ensuing discussion, save one reasonable response, is a ridiculous rant fest completely unrelated.
Sorry for contributing to the thread creep. It looked to me that this issue was no longer alive.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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