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No chord [Resolved] #798176 02/01/24 08:28 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224 B BIABman OP Apprentice
OP BIABman Apprentice B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224	Wow I actually searched for this one and nothing turned up in the program or here in the first three pages! How do you indicate No Chord for the bar? Something like N/C etc? Where there is N/C in notation and BIAB is totally silent for the bar. Thanks! Last edited by BIABman; 02/01/24 08:29 PM. A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: No chord BIABman #798179 02/01/24 09:36 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,484	Can you just use C. then on the next bar put the chord you want. Or F5 mute all instruments. Or Audio Edit > Master track > volume automation. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: No chord BIABman #798180 02/01/24 09:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia	What you need to look up is "Rests, shots and holds". You are wanting BIAB to rest. The easiest way to do this is using Chord Options (ALT+F5). This is also found by right clicking on the chord sheet. If you are entering chords by simply typing them, type a period after the chord name. For example C. tells the chord to rest and nothing will be heard until the next chord symbol. The period will rest all the instruments. Using the Chord Options dialogue will allow you to choose which instrument you want to rest and which instruments you want to play. Regards, --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: No chord Noel96 #798181 02/01/24 09:51 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224 B BIABman OP Apprentice
OP BIABman Apprentice B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224	Originally Posted by Noel96 What you need to look up is "Rests, shots and holds". You are wanting BIAB to rest. The easiest way to do this is using Chord Options (ALT+F5). This is also found by right clicking on the chord sheet. If you are entering chords by simply typing them, type a period after the chord name. For example C. tells the chord to rest and nothing will be heard until the next chord symbol. The period will rest all the instruments. Using the Chord Options dialogue will allow you to choose which instrument you want to rest and which instruments you want to play. Regards, --Noel Thanks Noel. I don't know if these suggestions will do the trick. In my case I'm not so much interested in the band stopping play for the bar (although I'd like that too) but more to have an indication in the notation that no chord is to be played (so no one accidentally continues the chord from the previous bar). You usually see NC or N/C in music to indicate No Chord. Does BIAB have any notation like this or similar? If not, I may have to write it in manually. Last edited by BIABman; 02/01/24 09:52 PM. A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: No chord BIABman #798187 02/01/24 11:27 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,871 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,871 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Sorry to say that this has been mentioned in the program for decades but was never implemented. There are chord shortcuts that can be typed such as J for Maj7, and there is one for NC (no chord) but it doesn't work. You can see it in /bb/Data/pgshortc.txt I mention this to the developers every few years. But even if it worked, we would want it to say NC in the notation, instead of C. as suggested for the workaround. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: No chord Matt Finley #798190 02/02/24 01:31 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,369 Melbourne, Australia	Quote Sorry to say that this has been mentioned in the program for decades but was never implemented. Yes, many reasonable music related items are requested. Unfortunately, we don't have any control over what is delivered. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: No chord BIABman #798198 02/02/24 03:40 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,905 Hampshire, UK Gordon Scott Expert
Gordon Scott Expert Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,905 Hampshire, UK	Mentions of C. may be a bit subtle for people new to BIAB. The important part of that is the dot (a rest), not the C (the chord). There are several neat tricks that can be done this way, or via Alt+F5. 2024 BIAB manual p93. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11; Win8.1: Scarletts BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.

Re: No chord BIABman #798204 02/02/24 04:22 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia	Originally Posted by BIABman Thanks Noel. I don't know if these suggestions will do the trick. In my case I'm not so much interested in the band stopping play for the bar (although I'd like that too) but more to have an indication in the notation that no chord is to be played (so no one accidentally continues the chord from the previous bar). You usually see NC or N/C in music to indicate No Chord. Does BIAB have any notation like this or similar? If not, I may have to write it in manually. Sometimes, writing it in manually is the quickest and easiest way. That's the approach that I would use. Alternatively, it is possible to add text boxes to BIAB. It's called "Insert Section Text" and is accessed via Editable Notation Mode. When in Editable Notation Mode, right-click above the staff where you would like the text to occur, and then select "Insert Section Text Event". If you need to edit the text, there is an "Edit" option in the right-click menu as well. Regards, --Noel P.S. If you are running BIAB in full-screen view, you can access the same view as shown in the image by pressing CTRL+T (it's a toggle between the two views). Last edited by Noel96; 02/02/24 04:24 AM. MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: No chord Matt Finley #798259 02/02/24 01:34 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224 B BIABman OP Apprentice
OP BIABman Apprentice B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224	Originally Posted by Matt Finley Sorry to say that this has been mentioned in the program for decades but was never implemented. There are chord shortcuts that can be typed such as J for Maj7, and there is one for NC (no chord) but it doesn't work. You can see it in /bb/Data/pgshortc.txt I mention this to the developers every few years. Thanks Matt. It's a pity it has never been implemented. Perhaps sometime in the decades to come a sympathetic programmer will unofficially implement it and leak the secret keyboard shortcut to get it to work. A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: No chord Noel96 #798272 02/02/24 01:52 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224 B BIABman OP Apprentice
OP BIABman Apprentice B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224	Originally Posted by Noel96 Sometimes, writing it in manually is the quickest and easiest way. That's the approach that I would use. Alternatively, it is possible to add text boxes to BIAB. It's called "Insert Section Text" and is accessed via Editable Notation Mode. When in Editable Notation Mode, right-click above the staff where you would like the text to occur, and then select "Insert Section Text Event". If you need to edit the text, there is an "Edit" option in the right-click menu as well. Regards, --Noel Yes in the end I may just do it manually. I tried the method you suggested above but the N/C text is much lower than the chord notation. I didn't see a way to adjust the height of the N/C text. BTW how do you insert the .png files to the forum? What is the technique? A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: No chord BIABman #798280 02/02/24 03:32 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia	Originally Posted by BIABman Yes in the end I may just do it manually. I tried the method you suggested above but the N/C text is much lower than the chord notation. I didn't see a way to adjust the height of the N/C text. To adjust the height... 1) Enter into Editable Notation Mode as before. 2) Right click about the stave and choose, "Edit Section Text" form the right-click menu. 3) Select the text event you want to edit (#1 on the image). 4) Choose "Edit" (#2). Once in the Edit window, it's possible to adjust... 5) Whether the text has a box around it or not (#3). (6) The vertical position of the text event (#4). The more negative the value, the higher the position. (7) What the text even contains (#5). (8) Horizontal location (#6)... this is in the format Bar, Beat, Tick (part of beat). Keep in mind that each beat consists of 120 ticks. So a setting of 1 2 60 means the that the even would be horizontally located in Bar 1 and midway between beats 2 and 3 (that is, 60 ticks past beat 2). Regards, --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: No chord BIABman #798282 02/02/24 03:45 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia	How to post images in the forum... 1) Scroll down below the last post in the thread where the "Quick Reply" window is located. 2) Choose "Use Full Editor" that's at the bottom of the Quick Reply Window. 3) Click on "Attachment Manager". Regards, --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: No chord Noel96 #798315 02/02/24 07:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224 B BIABman OP Apprentice
OP BIABman Apprentice B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 224	Originally Posted by Noel96 To adjust the height... 1) Enter into Editable Notation Mode as before. 2) Right click about the stave and choose, "Edit Section Text" form the right-click menu. 3) Select the text event you want to edit (#1 on the image). 4) Choose "Edit" (#2). Once in the Edit window, it's possible to adjust... 5) Whether the text has a box around it or not (#3). (6) The vertical position of the text event (#4). The more negative the value, the higher the position. (7) What the text even contains (#5). (8) Horizontal location (#6)... this is in the format Bar, Beat, Tick (part of beat). Keep in mind that each beat consists of 120 ticks. So a setting of 1 2 60 means the that the even would be horizontally located in Bar 1 and midway between beats 2 and 3 (that is, 60 ticks past beat 2). Regards, --Noel Thanks Noel, that did the trick! A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: No chord BIABman #798317 02/02/24 10:15 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,887 Australia	That's great! I'm glad you're up and running --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

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