I am looking for Russel Demussel, Rharv and Gary C(curran). These are forum members that have been here since the early 90's with me, even though our nicknames don't reflect that. I have been using BIAB since the A drive floppy disk days with them.
Forgive me but I have not been on the forums for over a year and.I'm just recently been getting back into making music again.
Forgive me if they are no longer here either. Just trying to see if and where they are at anymore. Does anyone have any info? Please contact me.
The ‘joined’ dates associated with some of us who were here in the mid-1990s are not accurate because PG Music changed Forum software in the summer of 2000. The old posts, and post counts, were not preserved.
Russell became very involved with model airplanes if I recall correctly. His interest shifted away several years ago. He gave us a lot of chuckles, and served as the model for the Ivan sociology experiment.
Gary stopped out for a while, but returned. He remains one of the MIDI experts here.
Rharv is still active and has always been one of the most knowledgeable posters here.
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I first used BiaB when it was available on the Atari, and I miss Russell and Gary doesn't frequent here as much as he used to. Rharv still posts a lot.
Things change. A lot of folks are gone, and a lot of new ones are here. Some, like Mac are gone to the great gig in the sky.
Bob, I know Mac stopped posting ten years ago, but we had a much more recent report that he was ok. Has that changed? EDIT: please see my post a few below. I really don’t know about Mac.
ps to everyone, if those old forum posts had been preserved, Mac would have had even more of a lead in total posts. Rharv and I are still not even close with an additional ten years worth.
Last edited by Matt Finley; 02/21/2406:21 PM. Reason: I received more info.
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Mac helped me so many times i can't remember. He turned me on to Biab, and i miss him too.
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I received a PM from a highly trusted source that I am probably wrong in my memory about Mac. I think I misinterpreted or misremembered a post. Please ignore my comment. I do not have any idea of Mac’s status or history.
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Started BAIB with V2 (yep, floppies), bought 9 Oct 90 (still have receipt). I joined the forum almost as soon as it was available, being senile I don’t remember when that was- early to no later than mid 90’s. Matt’s right however, that’s all lost to history since PG started over again in year 2K.
I like Matt and a handful of others here but I miss Mac the most, Mac and I are both USAF retirees and had other things in common. I truly hope he just dropped off of here, for whatever reason, and is not “on other side of the grass,” but God bless and RIP if he is.
I don’t come here much anymore for my own reasons.
Good luck all
Larry
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Larry raises an interesting question: when did we start using the forum for PG Music? I am a programmer and in 1994 I wrote some of the earliest websites in my county (a college where I was the academic dean, and a public library where I was board president).
Many companies didn’t have a web presence until 1995. My memory says PG Music started in 1995. If that’s wrong, I’m only off by plus or minus one. It used to be possible to view early sites in the Internet Archive but I believe the first ones don’t show up.
That early PG Music forum was very active and helpful. It was quite well established when the forum software was changed over in late spring 2000.
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According to an Internet search PGMusic started in 1988. I think that is right as about the same time I connected my Atari computer to a Korg DS-8 keyboard and purchased BiaB.
I want my last spoken words to be "I hid a million dollars under the........................"
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I received a PM from a highly trusted source that I am probably wrong in my memory about Mac. I think I misinterpreted or misremembered a post. Please ignore my comment. I do not have any idea of Mac’s status or history.
Mac was one of a kind, and so knowledgeable & generous... I've often wondered if Mac may have just changed his identity, as I did, and is still lurking about the Forum, enjoying his anonymity (and extra free time). He may still be a casual contributor with a different handle, who's kicked the Forum habit, and we just don't realize it... He could still be among us ~
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According to an Internet search PGMusic started in 1988. I think that is right as about the same time I connected my Atari computer to a Korg DS-8 keyboard and purchased BiaB.
Mario, oh yes. Let me be more precise. I was trying to recall when PG Music started their forum, not when the company started. I have some floppies from 1993 when I discovered this marvelous program in a Sam Ash store in New York City.
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Can't really recall when I was first introduced to BIAB. But I do know it was via a couple floppy disks that a friend passed my way. I can only assume this would have been the same time I would have found the forum, unless the forum did not yet exist at that time. I can only guess circa early 90's. That would place me at about 34 years here in the forum. Does that make me an "older forum member"?
I *think*, because thats hard to do these days, it was either 94 or 95 when I discovered PgMusic. My first PC I bought from a friend was from Radio Shack and I can still hear the beeps and whooshes in my nightmares. It took a LONG time to dl anything.
Glad to see my friend from MI still here.
Last time I saw RD post was when he was getting into RC Airplanes.
Mac, he truly was one of a kind and had SO much music knowledge, just wow.
Haven’t seen Gary C in years on here.
Bought a new iphone today and x-fer from old phone is reminding of the dial up days. Luckily, I can connect to my WiFi and type this.
We were doing inventory at my parents music store and I saw BiaB on the shelf (floppies) .. asked Dad if I could have it, and received. Right after that I noticed they also sold PT so I got myself a copy of that and been here ever since. I, also, lost a lot of posts when the forum reset in 2000, but didn't really matter, as it was a much better forum software as I recall. The old platform was getting pretty easy to hack, and PGMusic was gaining popularity, so it was a smart move by them.
Russ did pop into the beta forum a few years ago, so he was still tinkering with BiaB at that point, but he spent more time with his planes (and probably drones these days) .
Gary showed up too, which was nice, as well as Allanah (her BiaB song file archive was awesome back in the day) .. they just haven't been very active in the public forums lately
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Make your sound your own! .. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
I have not been on the forum as long as many of you long timers. But I did have a floppy version of BIAB in the 90's. Can't remember the version now. Saw an ad in Guitar Player magazine as I recall. I tend to read way more than I post I guess.
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My first version of BiaB on the PC (then called IBM compatible) was in DOS-5. Peter Gannon kindly offered to convert my Atari disks to the IBM format, so I could sell them on the most popular computer. (I thank you to this day, Peter.)
Next, I bought a DOS-5/Win3.1 machine and learned how to do it myself. BiaB was DOS only, so I would format disks on the PC, make styles on the Atari, and then import them back into BiaB/DOS. (I have typos built into my fingers, so DOS was a PITA for me.)
Then PG came out with a Windows 3.1 version and I never made another style on the Atari. Since I found myself in the BiaB style biz, I also bought my first Mac, one of toaster sized OS-6 machines.
I don't make a living selling BiaB disks, but it's a supplement. I gig for a living, and do this part-time. But I've made a lot of friends here, and learned a lot about computer music. I took arranging in school, and making styles in BiaB plus working in a MIDI sequencer/DAW has improved those skills by allowing me to instantly hear what choices work better for my ears/musical tastes.
When gigging on a cruise ship, we pulled into Bermuda every week. I needed something, so I want to a music store there. When I paid, the owner asked me if I was “The Real Bob Norton of Band-in-a-Box.” It was almost like being famous. Since then, I've been recognized a couple of times. It feels good.
All in all, BiaB and the BiaB community have been a good friend that has enriched my life. Thanks to Peter, all my old friends here who are gone, and all my current and new friends here today. And hoping to make some new friends as they arrive.
We were doing inventory at my parents music store and I saw BiaB on the shelf (floppies) .. asked Dad if I could have it, and received. Right after that I noticed they also sold PT so I got myself a copy of that and been here ever since. I, also, lost a lot of posts when the forum reset in 2000, but didn't really matter, as it was a much better forum software as I recall. The old platform was getting pretty easy to hack, and PGMusic was gaining popularity, so it was a smart move by them.
Russ did pop into the beta forum a few years ago, so he was still tinkering with BiaB at that point, but he spent more time with his planes (and probably drones these days) .
Gary showed up too, which was nice, as well as Allanah (her BiaB song file archive was awesome back in the day) .. they just haven't been very active in the public forums lately
Guess who has Allanah’s files? Someone has a folder that was the Cats Meow back in the day. 😉 I don’t know if it’s her full archive, but I’ve got a folder full.
Great to see you posting Mr PT Pro! Glad to see you still here.
Trax
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Guess who has Allanah’s files? Someone has a folder that was the Cats Meow back in the day. 😉 I don’t know if it’s her full archive, but I’ve got a folder full.
Great to see you posting Mr PT Pro! Glad to see you still here.
Trax
That makes two of us. I have all of Allanah's files also.
I want my last spoken words to be "I hid a million dollars under the........................"
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
I *think I have them on a 1 TB external USB drive sitting beside me, but I didn't bother to check it. Glad to know I have sources to turn to if I can't find them some day. Or even more importantly, if Allanah needed a copy!
Make your sound your own! .. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Russ Stanton (Russell Demussell) introduced me to Power Tracks back in the 90s. We formed a 2-man band called 'Back Trackers' and played together for a while, but the last time I saw or heard from him was around 2002-2003 when he came to Baton Rouge and we spent a pleasant afternoon putting on a show for some of my friends and neighbors. I've sent him several messages over the years, but I've never gotten an answer, nor have I ever seen him again. He was a virtual go-to guy when it came to PT and BIAB. I sure miss him.
Though I spent countless hours listening to Rharv's songs on PT, and reading his comments, I never actually spoke with him or messaged him, to the best of my knowledge. Sure hope he's still around and doing ok.
Last, but not least, another person who should be mentioned is Mac. If you ran into a problem you couldn't figure out Mac was quick with the answer. I learned a lot from him, even though I never knew him personally.
Though I spent countless hours listening to Rharv's songs on PT, and reading his comments, I never actually spoke with him or messaged him, to the best of my knowledge. Sure hope he's still around and doing ok.
He is still around.
And it's still his fault.
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