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before we get a flame war going here, I'd just like to say that intelligent people should be able to express highly volatile ideas peaceably and without resorting to character assassination.

That's an excellent thought!

I hope everyone with good sense supports you publicly.
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Bob, the gist of the article is good (at least, in terms of intent), but I think it simplifies things a bit much.

You repeatedly say We grumbled, but did nothing. I don't think this is accurate. Quite a bit has been done by people on these issues, and continues to be done. To say otherwise does discredit to those who have worked long and hard for their causes.

You say "In true Alinsky fashion, they batter us with labels.", but your own terms - "Marxist/communist/socialist/progressive world movement" - seem to be exactly what you are complaining about.

But what I find most problematic in pointing to a group of "them" is that they are conveniently not "us".






David,

Thanks for reading the article. While I agree that “quite a bit has been done”, I submit that it has not been enough. I don't believe that stating that fact does any discredit to anyone. A failed effort is still a failure, regardless of the good intentions of the people making the effort.


“You say "In true Alinsky fashion, they batter us with labels.", but your own terms - "Marxist/communist/socialist/progressive world movement" - seem to be exactly what you are complaining about.”


I respectfully disagree. These terms are political, not epithetic. Terms like “Xenophobe”, “Homophobe”, “Racist “ and “Misogynist “ are epithets, not legitimate political descriptions, such as “Marxist”.

“But what I find most problematic in pointing to a group of "them" is that they are conveniently not "us". “

Actually, that was the point of the entire article. Everyone blames “Them”, while in fact, WE are “Them”, not by commission, but by omission.

Have you any argument on the content of the article, or just a problem with the way it was presented? Your comments have not made that very clear to me.



Regards,


Bob

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