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Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them. Notes Norton #280035 01/14/15 03:40 PM Off-Topic
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Pat Marr Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,074 Winston-Salem, NC	Originally Posted By: Notes Norton The gig we've had for 7 years now just gave us a raise. We didn't ask for it, but we are building the business and the owners wanted to show their appreciation. It's outdoors, on a deck, over a salt-water lagoon. We now ask people to bring lawn chairs because there aren't enough seats on the deck for everyone, and the overflow sits out on the 'beach' at the end of the deck. The owners know that the way we treat the gig is to make all decisions as if we were the owners and were collecting the revenue. In other words, what's good for the business that hires us is good for us. Example. A group of bicycle riders that ride from Cocoa to Key West passed us by about 5 years ago. They liked us so they make sure to schedule their trip so they could stop on our day for lunch (we do Tuesdays). They had a tail wind yesterday and got there early. So we started a half hour early. We also skip breaks and if the crowd stays late, we play late. We recognize regular customers and play their requests without them having to ask. We tell stories on the mic, have running gags, and talk with the audience. We have a personal relationship with the regular audience members, know many by name, know things about their life and ask about them, and generally treat them as if they were friends and we were all at a cocktail party. It's how we compete with DJs and KJs. Here's how the musicians should think about the bars and restaurants that hire them: What is good for the establishment is good for us, and we will do everything we can in the capacity of entertainers to make money for the club - that includes keeping customers happy so they want to stay a little longer and come back again. Insights and incites by Notes Insights and incites by Notes way to go Notes! Instead of complaining about what isn't like it used to be, you're busy making your own reality, and benefiting form your own good decisions. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ey71h8ep047758h/AAC12jNM0Hz9Q8zsh5iDeqNHa?dl=0

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Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Joe V	12/22/14 07:52 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	MarioD	12/22/14 09:18 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Matt Finley	12/22/14 09:51 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/22/14 09:59 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Danny C.	12/22/14 10:06 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	JohnJohnJohn	12/23/14 04:40 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Joe V	12/23/14 07:56 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Guitarhacker	12/23/14 10:15 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	12/23/14 11:24 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Charlie Fogle	12/23/14 12:30 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Danny C.	12/23/14 05:21 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/23/14 01:53 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/23/14 03:16 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/23/14 03:52 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	12/23/14 04:06 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	MarioD	12/23/14 04:58 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/23/14 05:47 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/23/14 06:05 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/23/14 08:02 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	GHinCH	12/23/14 08:56 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	12/23/14 09:04 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/24/14 11:03 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/24/14 03:00 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/23/14 09:58 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	12/24/14 10:28 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/24/14 11:16 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/24/14 11:19 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	12/24/14 11:59 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Flatfoot	12/24/14 01:35 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/26/14 04:35 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	12/26/14 11:45 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/26/14 10:50 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	12/27/14 12:40 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	dcuny	12/27/14 01:24 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/27/14 02:39 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	gibson	12/27/14 04:15 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	GHinCH	12/27/14 07:23 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	MarioD	12/27/14 11:26 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/27/14 01:59 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Kemmrich	12/24/14 03:29 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	12/24/14 08:19 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Joe V	12/25/14 09:03 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Kemmrich	12/26/14 09:52 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/27/14 01:53 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/27/14 02:03 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Lloyd S	12/27/14 02:48 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/27/14 03:06 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	MarioD	12/27/14 06:23 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	GHinCH	12/27/14 10:56 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Charlie Fogle	12/28/14 01:54 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/27/14 03:12 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Joe V	12/27/14 03:23 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Rob Helms	12/27/14 03:24 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/27/14 03:29 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	raymb1	12/27/14 11:41 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	12/28/14 12:32 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	12/28/14 03:24 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/28/14 06:46 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	12/28/14 10:30 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Joe V	12/28/14 08:38 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	12/28/14 10:39 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	raymb1	12/28/14 10:48 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/28/14 10:52 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	12/29/14 12:09 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Danny C.	12/29/14 08:22 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	01/08/15 06:48 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	01/08/15 09:07 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	01/08/15 10:59 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	chulaivet1966	01/09/15 11:43 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/29/14 01:42 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	12/30/14 11:25 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Rob Helms	12/29/14 08:41 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/29/14 08:44 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Matt Finley	12/29/14 10:54 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	12/29/14 08:45 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Danny C.	12/30/14 02:20 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	12/30/14 02:01 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Rob Helms	12/30/14 02:14 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Danny C.	01/08/15 10:56 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	01/08/15 06:55 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Rob Helms	01/08/15 06:59 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	01/09/15 01:32 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	01/09/15 12:35 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	01/09/15 04:26 PM
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Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	01/09/15 06:29 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	JohnJohnJohn	01/10/15 09:33 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Kemmrich	01/09/15 07:38 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	01/09/15 08:00 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Danny C.	01/09/15 10:30 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	01/10/15 11:40 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	01/12/15 04:52 PM
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Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Rob Helms	01/12/15 05:38 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	01/13/15 11:10 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	01/13/15 07:12 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	01/14/15 01:22 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	01/14/15 06:26 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	01/14/15 08:56 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	01/14/15 10:40 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	eddie1261	01/14/15 01:28 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	01/14/15 10:32 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	01/15/15 05:50 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	jazzmammal	01/15/15 03:21 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	GHinCH	01/15/15 06:37 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Pat Marr	01/15/15 11:21 AM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	bobcflatpicker	01/15/15 02:35 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	Notes Norton	01/15/15 12:11 PM
Re: Here's how the restaurants and bars feel about musicians...even when they do pay them.	90 dB	01/15/15 06:54 PM
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