I think by now all of us who take the time to participate in the forums realize that this is a pretty cool place to hang out. It operates very much like a family as floyd has pointed out. Pat Marr is the embodiment of all that is good about this place. A gracious and humble man that I now call my friend. What he has done with this series of visits has brought us all a little bit closer together and he should be commended for his efforts. In his own words " How cool is that?" Thanks Pat. Tom