Oh man, I've been following this thread (and a lot of the other, similar ones) with great interest, and I have so many thoughts I would not even know where to begin!

Before I begin, I want to apologize in advance in case I offend anyone here. Basically, I've always pursued music from a purely instrumental and theoretical. I play guitar and bass (quite proficiently, I like to think), and I am decently versed in music theory. I used BiaB strictly for learning purposes, and as a backing track tool to experiment with different progressions, chord modulations, etc, and music production and songwriting wasn't really an interest of mine until a couple of years or so ago.

I started using Reaper to collab online with many younger producers and songwriters who just wanted some live bass, some rhythm guitar or a guitar solo here and there. I started watching Kenny Goia's videos on YT to get better at Reaper, and suddenly my interest in production blossomed. I started experimenting with various effects, VSTs, and other plugins, and my mind was basically blown by how many possibilities are out there. Unfortunately, it also opened my eyes to a myriad of grievous shortcomings inherent in BiaB and RB from a production/workflow perspective



Here's a few random thoughts (any number of which I could very well be wrong about, fwiw).

A. PG Music is quite content in it's little niche. The folks here in the forum are the main demographic, and their bread and butter. The fact that new features are those such as video realtracks rather then more substantive things like the redesigned ACW, with the new release is evidence of the above.

B. No one's gonna have money for a yacht when they retire, and I imagine there will be enough to give their employees three months wages and perhaps a celebratory brunch at a reasonably priced family restaurant when and if they liquidate their assets. Earlier in this thread someone referred to a million dollars for each employee and I almost choked on coffee.

C. With the "right" management, PG Music could be raking in some serious revenue. I'm not saying it's being mismanaged. The owners are free to do as they please with their own business and product(s). I'm just saying if they wanted to make money, they could. Which leads me to...

D. There is no marketing presence to speak of. I recently downloaded a bunch of product demos from Native Instruments and I get popups non-stop. They also have dozens upon dozens of slickly produced videos highlighting scads of mind-blowing sounds that may be achieved by their product. To start raking in cash at this point, their marketing budget, IMO, should be multiples of what they spend on having their Realtracks recorded.

E. The program is just an antiquated mess. Hire a frikking team of programmers and clean this thing up. I don't care about the visuals (although I've no doubt it turns hundreds of potential customers off from even looking under the hood of the program), but there are so many things that should just work properly. For instance, the harmony future is absolutely brilliant-especially with the Intelligent Mode or whatever it's called. Unfortunately, whenever I've tried to use it the results sound downright awful and nothing like in the demo. There are so many requested features that are more like requests for bug fixes that are brought up on the forums, and there is virtually no response from PG Music.

I got a whole lot more where that came from, but I have to get back to work for moment. Also, I have not addresses some of the things that make BiaB one of the most brilliant and unique programs ever, and why you barely, if ever, hear the program hitting above 25 percent of its potential on the User Showcase (caveat, I don't spend a lot of time there, so don't take it personally, I may not have listened to your song so I'm not referring to your stuff as an individual... also, I'm not saying that these songs I listen to are not excellent songs, I'm just saying that they don't leverage what BiaB can do based on the hours I spent coming through the manual and generating all sorts of experimental stuff that blew my mind clear out of the water...)

Anyway, I've been loving these discussions, but gotta get back to work for the moment.

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