pitb.
i feel compelled to comment.
i havent had time to be on these user forums like normal due to various family
aspects/problems to deal with.
but heres my 2c fwiw.
1. YOU HAVE NOT SUGGESTED A BETTER ALTERNATIVE BETTER MUSIC CREATION SOLUTION.
for example in a typical daw software in the past one had to
laboriously create track after track which could take ages.
with this new biab/rb software paradigm it means a song creator like
myself can get a song idea down faster than traditional approaches
and try lots of different chord arrangement ideas.
frankly i wish i had have had this software when i started writing songs
decades ago.
in summary in the world of music software the rb/biab combo is unique.
i know of no other product that competes.
do you ??
for example ezdrummer is just drums, and can get rather
pricey, whereas with rb/biab your getting much more than just drums.
ive tried every approach out there.
2. you ask for album examples, but the software hasnt been out there in the market
for years n years. so obviously it takes a time for albums to appear.
thus your more likely to hear single songs.
which of course will vary in quality cos many folks are getting familiar
with the product.
for me i can tell you i wouldnt be doing elevator music.
it would be rock all the way mate and/or some MOR.
3. lets look at a typical album production cost.
it can easily run over 150k includeing session musicians in a major studio.
in many cases much much more.
how many people can afford that ??
ive done original songs on everything from bouncing useing two cassette deks thru
2 inch pro multitrack thru useing hi end mega studios, and in the latter
tho a nice environment i was going broke fast i can tell you.
frankly my only bitch is the pg pricing particularly for someone like myself with
other family responsibilities that stress me.
i would urge pg to consider lowering prices a tad.
3. the other aspect is the rb/biab software engineering itself.
i speak from decades of building software, and thus pg have my greatest
respect for bringing these products to market.
cos its not trivial software engineering imho.
in fact i'll go further and say my recommended music creation combo right now
is pg's rb/biab and reaper.
with respect pitb i would suggest you look at things in the following context.
a song to my mind is akin to building a house.
you start off with a foundation, gradually build up the house and then
add the fancy bits the wife wants..lol.
similarly consider biab/rb for trying out lots of different song foundations,
then once you get that "aha moment" get your bed traks right from
biab/rb and drop em into reaper (or your other preferred traditional
software, samp or ptools or cubase or sonar etc) and then add your final vocals and lead up front
traks and do final mixing.
of course you could do everything in rb/biab if you wish.
but different people use different approaches.

as i said show me a better solution to rb/biab.
i'm all ears and havent seen one.
please dont mention "painting loops".
i tried that once..drove me nuts.
its easy to knock anything, but imho the rb/biab plus real tracks
so one can have real session musicians on ones songs is
a significant breakthrough in music software engineering.
as others have said its how the user uses the tool .
all the best.


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