Originally Posted By: floyd jane
As you do your BIAB production, you have to do all the thinking. Think like a guitar player. Think like a fiddle player. A steel player. A drummer (who can do that?!?) SO, it is going to be a bit tougher to "get that groove". But the tracks are there that will give it to you.


Everything you wrote is right on but since this thread is about doing a demo that is going to be presented to a producer or publisher...

Biab will not cut it by itself. It's fine to lay out the song, get the basic elements there but to use Biab tracks for the whole thing except for your vocal or you playing? I could be wrong and there are exceptions to everything but imho I don't think so.

Example when he stops the session to say he wants to put the Pretty Woman drum lick in there as a break. That is a good idea and adds a real nice bit of spice to the song. Somebody trying to do this demo in Biab is going to have their Real Drum track just playing through that or they're going to try to somehow cut and paste a fill in there that will not flow correctly.

This is exactly the sort of thing that gives away the fact that it's a Biab created demo. These guys are not stupid, they know all about Biab and all the RT/RD's. The guitarist and keyboard guy are playing somewhat generic but still specific parts for this demo. They don't sound like what the guitar or organ RT's sound like. When Harvey Gerst was posting here a few years ago he explained in detail how he might create an 8 bar RT to fill in a background guitar strum part because the guitarist had already gone home and they didn't want to pay him to come back so he filled that in with an RT. Huge difference between that and using Biab for the whole thing.

Biab is a wonderful tool but if you're serious about presenting a demo to producers or publishers you need what's being shown in this video.

Bob

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