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Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #462956 03/19/18 09:37 AM Songwriting
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,533 Sacramento, California dcuny Veteran
dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,533 Sacramento, California	Originally Posted By: David Snyder You have just given me my new song man. Be back in 18 hours. 18 hours? You're slowing down! -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Re: Circle of Fifths dcuny #463186 03/20/18 11:30 AM Songwriting
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	I might be able to make up circle chord input for BB with Lua script. So it has the radial menu you pick > Scale type > Key > Chord If you think it will be usable ?? You could also make a picker with All chords or Key. You could just have arrows to move the BB cursor and a comma check box for chords on the next beat. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) BB-chord_circle_picker.gif (106.46 KB, 259 downloads) BB-chord_picker.gif (201.82 KB, 259 downloads)

Re: Circle of Fifths Pipeline #463205 03/20/18 12:16 PM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	Is the second screenshot something already in BIAB I have missed? I can't tell if this is a joke or you pulled a magic trick, or if this already exists, but if it does not exist and you built it, it would be awesome. So, don't laugh at me, but is the second screenshot something already in BIAB and if so where is it? If it is not there, fire up some code man. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #463212 03/20/18 12:52 PM Songwriting
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Quote: is the second screenshot something already in BIAB and if so where is it? No it's not in BB but should be that's why I thought about making one for it, something like RapidComposer so it won't take 18 hours. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) RC-chord_circle_picker.gif (402.56 KB, 342 downloads)

Re: Circle of Fifths Joe -PG Music #463230 03/20/18 01:57 PM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	Love it. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #463306 03/21/18 04:39 AM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	But isn't this new feature in 2018 very similar, just saw it.. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Chord Entry.jpg (127.62 KB, 236 downloads) David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths Joe -PG Music #463323 03/21/18 05:38 AM Songwriting
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,283 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker Veteran
Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,283 Middlesex, NC	I think you mean this: Jim, Jack, George, Johnny, and Old Antique setting in a circle..... You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Circle of Fifths Guitarhacker #463330 03/21/18 06:01 AM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	Exactly Herb. See Songwriting Forum and my latest post of 15 minutes ago. Herb, you kinda beat me to it thought wise, but I think music wise Tater Totts was hoping his new song Circle of Fifths would put an end to all this silly talk so people can just get back to writing themselves some great country hits. Thanks to Two Socks, Mario, Dave Cuny, Herb Hartley, Pipleline and Floyd Jane for teaching me everything I know about the Circle of Fifths and writing a great country song. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=463325#Post463325 David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #463342 03/21/18 07:39 AM Songwriting
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,944 Texas Jim Expert
Jim Expert Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,944 Texas	For some this may be helpful. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) CircleOf5thsForGuitar.gif (120.37 KB, 211 downloads) Jim †=☮&♥

Re: Circle of Fifths Jim #463369 03/21/18 10:57 AM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Man, that's what I'm taking about!! David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #463821 03/23/18 04:14 PM Songwriting
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Here's a beta version you can try, there might be some errors/typos, check the scales also, let me know what don't work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/eb7ppu14po74ur0/Biab_Chord_Picker_beta_1.0.zip?dl=1 EDIT: fixed Play Generate Button >+ The chords are copied in order from the PG website, there are some duplicates. The dim gives dim7. Use the Bass, Drum, Piano.. buttons to set the instrument/s to play over a Rest, Shot or Hold Use the < > to move or use the keyboard arrows. Use - for a comma between chords. Use / for slash chords. It should just run standalone, any problems just install AutoHotKey you can also right click > Properties > Compatibility > Run As Admin Creating your own GUI: I included the script, to edit it use SciTE4AutoHotKey or Notepad. To create a GUI use SmartGUI then open in SciTE4AutoHotKey to add the the hotkeys. So for each GUI Button you create e.g 13b5#9 put the code at the bottom, this will send it to the Biab window, { } are used to send some special characters. Code: Button13b5#9: winactivate,ahk_class TBandWindow Send 13b5{#}9 Return You can use the GUI to do any Biab function by adding a button to send the shortcut keys or keystrokes to access the menus etc... If you have AutoHotKey installed just right click the script.ahk > Compile, this will create the GUI.exe Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Biab-Chord-Picker-Tool.png (151.59 KB, 5825 downloads) Last edited by Pipeline; 03/23/18 05:45 PM.

Re: Circle of Fifths Pipeline #463863 03/24/18 03:11 AM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	Pipeline, I appreciate all of your hard work man, more than you will ever know, but I don't know anything about programming and I am terrified of testing executables that have not been tested for fear that they may cause something to crash, and I won't have any idea to fix it. I would prefer to use this when someone else who is more computer literate than me has checked it out and verified that it is safe to download, install and run, because again I am a moron when it comes to this domain. Also, I am pretty sure my Norton config will delete this the moment it sees it. But again, I just don't know enough to say. Thanks for all you do man! David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #463910 03/24/18 10:15 AM Songwriting
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Just install AutoHotKey then double click on the Biab Chord Picker beta 1.0 script.ahk and it will run without having to use the exe. If you open the Picker beta 1.0 script.ahk by dragging into Notepad you will send it is just simple text, OR instead of downloading you can copy the text below into Notepad then save as My Chord Tool.ahk and it will run when you double click it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/br2rsun384q0qap/Biab%20Chord%20Picker%20beta%201.0.txt?dl=0 The top part creates the buttons and the bottom part sends those to Biab as keystrokes. Here is just the text script https://www.dropbox.com/s/tz57jd1fz4ws5ab/Biab%20Chord%20Picker%20beta%201.0%20script.ahk?dl=1 View Full Screen

Re: Circle of Fifths Pipeline #463931 03/24/18 12:10 PM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,327 North Carolina	Hey Pipeline, Thanks. I have limited technical knowledge of this sort and have no idea what any of this means. I think I will wait until someone else on the forum who knows more than me has tested it out and can explain it to me so I don't fear clicking on anything. My apologies but I am super sensitive to intrusions or anything that might harm my computer. I have no idea what you are talking about and do not speak this language. I will let someone else beta test it and tell me when it is ready. Thanks for all of your effort and hard work. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Circle of Fifths David Snyder #463936 03/24/18 12:34 PM Songwriting
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	To use Biab you need to be switched on, so I would say you are already there !!! There's a song and lyrics right there, being brave to "Take the First Step". You know life's not always easy There's always a hard road ahead But I'm gonna be brave Yea I'm gonna be brave To take the first step I could create the chords up also with the chord picker if like.. I would put a Hold just before "To take the first step", so hit the chord button then the Hold button, then bring in the guitar solo. Last edited by Pipeline; 03/24/18 12:45 PM.

Re: Circle of Fifths Joe -PG Music #463937 03/24/18 12:36 PM Songwriting
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,732 St. Louis, MO. USA sslechta Veteran
sslechta Veteran Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,732 St. Louis, MO. USA	Cool stuff Pipeline. I used to use AutoHotKey on a server to have it launch an app and click on specific options on the app with programmed mouse clicks. Steve BIAB/RB 2022, Pro Tools 2020, Korg N5, JBL LSR 4328 Powered Monitors, AKG/Shure Mics. PC: Win11 PRO, 4 TB M2 SSD, 2 TB HD, 128 GB Memory

Re: Circle of Fifths sslechta #463961 03/24/18 02:18 PM Songwriting
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Yes there are so many ways to use it. This is the easiest way: Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) AHK_Install.gif (994.93 KB, 2298 downloads)

Re: Circle of Fifths Pipeline #464128 03/25/18 08:12 PM Songwriting
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Here's a newer one with the chords in list order. EDIT: Push buttons named EDIT: Always On Top checkbox added Exe and script https://www.dropbox.com/s/ptxts5elvpo7xx4/Biab%20Chord%20Picker%20beta%201.c.zip?dl=1 Script only https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmwy2ffpdqpllb3/Biab%20Chord%20Picker%20beta%201.c.ahk?dl=1 Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Biab_Chord_Picker_1c.png (88.14 KB, 972 downloads) Last edited by Pipeline; 03/26/18 06:39 PM.

Re: Circle of Fifths Joe -PG Music #464131 03/25/18 08:47 PM Songwriting
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796 fiddler2007 Expert
fiddler2007 Expert Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796	i'll give it a try, thnx, F

Re: Circle of Fifths fiddler2007 #464753 03/29/18 09:48 AM Songwriting
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	It would be good to get some feedback, the only feedback I've had is from funkycornwall here http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=464692#Post464692 Fixed m6 m7 Ma7, added View Mode button. EDIT: Update, Added Set existing Chord to Push 1/8 or 1/16 Added View Mode Normal/Compact Added DAW Plug-in Mode (small) EDIT: Update Added Remove Push Shot Hold or Rest from Chord Added GUI Color Picker Added Move BB Window with cursor keys or mouse Exe and script https://www.dropbox.com/s/mifqr8ibtnk6f4h/Biab%20Chord%20Picker%20beta%201.f.zip?dl=1 Script only https://www.dropbox.com/s/qluu9iv9plk3ndk/Biab%20Chord%20Picker%20beta%201.f.ahk?dl=1 Last edited by Pipeline; 03/29/18 07:24 PM.

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