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Try turning off Sync in the plugin: Sync enabled: ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=31159&filename=Sync enabled.png) Sync disabled: ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=31160&filename=Sync disabled.png)
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Thanks Mark! There’s some interesting ideas in your post. I am a guitarist teaching myself keys so I can add a riff or lick here or there in my songs. I usually have a go at playing a section on keys, then I go to the piano roll in my DAW to tidy it up, which usually involves time-shifting the odd note or removing errant key touches, then as you say, copying the section to other parts. I hadn’t heard the Lennon PowerPoint story before, but sounds like a useful tool to look for a nice touch to a melody. It fits with advice I’ve read elsewhere about distinctive melodies containing more interval jumps/drops - a distinction between McCartney and Lennon - the former’s melodies using more interval jumps while the latter tended to use melodies with minimal interval movement underpinned by harmonic development with chord progressions (generalisations but some truth to it). Andrew D
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Thanks Noel for posting this thread! I feel like I’ve taken the ‘red pill’. I have also bookmarked The loudnesspenalty.com site (thanks Bud) and trying out the free version of Youlean plugin (thanks Maartian). Andrew
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Andrew, I would highly recommend that you pick up a copy of a book by Bobby Owsinski. It's called The Mixing Engineer's Handbook. Thanks Herb! I’ll check it out. Andrew
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Moving this to a new thread in the Mac forums. Q: On my BIAB 2025 I can only see a VST2. version of SynthMaster Player. Given VST3. and ( on Macs ) AU are now the standards - and VST2 has long been deprecated and no longer supported by Steinberg - why is there no VST3 or AU version of the SM Player plugin installed? Also - is this an old version of SM Player or the latest SM2 Player? This is a slightly older version of Synthmaster 2 Player. We are using a customized build, as the official build requires purchase/authorization while our build self-authorizes. As it is a customized build we are including only what KV331 has sent us - this being VST2 only. We have requested a VST3 version.
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Hi, Marty. What a wonderfully produced piece of music, David. SO much to talk about; there is so mch goodness in each measure, in each instrument, and those singers are outstanding. Well developed. Wow, when it was over the first time I realized my mouth was open for 3 minutes and 29 seconds. For the second spin I had a sip of coffee and just sat back to let the sounds take me away. Yeah, a cool 60s TV show theme. Wow! Thanks!  What a wonderful production. Or did I already say that? Well, I certainly won't stop you from repeating it.  Thanks again for the positive comments!
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ASIO is older? You win today’s trivia contest, Simon.
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This is the best news I've read all week! Same!
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Hi, Dave. What a fabulous piece of music! I read through the comments as I listened and I think David and Floyd are right on the money, can't add anymore than what they have already said. Very impressive work, enjoyed! Thanks!
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Hi, Chay. A very 60s vibe to this - indeed very Carpenters - and I really like the chords structure. Thanks! My only criticism, which is clearly a personal thing, is that I just don't like SynthV vocals. Here and elsewhere where other have used alternatives such as Suno, the vocals sound organic, where for me SynthV vocals don't, particularly the way they're phrased, which is probably down to the singers not being Western. Ignoring any ethical issues, the technical problem with using Suno is that you can only supply lyrics - not notes. That would mean handing over all the other elements of music (harmonies, melodies) to Suno. And while the results would be quite good, that doesn't leave much for me to do. Technically, it wouldn't be difficult for Suno to add the ability to edit notes. In fact, I thought I'd read that feature was explored in-house. But they intentionally left that level of control out, on the correct assumption that they would reach a wider range of users if they had a much simpler offering. Thanks for listening and commenting! 
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Users are most likely posting in other forums that we don't have access to. I think that is a fairly normal occurrence. I'm a beta tester and likely the private forums are significant contributors. FWIW Precisely. Beta testing is like Fight Club. The First Rule… The first rule of Fight Club is the first rule of Fight Club. Wait no, that's Tautology Club. Carry on...
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Hi, Mario. David, I'm glad to stuck to it as your finished project sounds great. So am I! I wasn't sure it would gel until near the end. Those synth vocals sound like real humans- brilliant job on that. This must have been a bear to mix but you did a fantastic job on the mix. I was a bit of a problem, but I think the compressor did a lot of the work. I agree that it sounds like an old TV show theme song and that is a good thing. That's what I was aiming for. Thanks for listening and commenting!
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Hi, floyd jane. I read your notes first. I was exhausted. That's a lot of work. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd figure out an easier way to do things. Goosebumps. Chills, Mr. Cuny. LOVE this. Wow... A review worth framing!  LOVE the chord changes (and I'm not really a chord-changes-kinda-guy) AND the major 7ths (I am a major-7ths-kinda-guy). The changes were Exciting. Surprising. But in No Way jarring or even unexpected - although they were unexpected. Blended one to the next is how they hit the ear. Absolutely beautiful. Thrilling, even. I'm glad you liked them. This is Great. (I never say that) Make that a review worth framing in a gold frame. Here is some stuff you can ignore (because you need no suggestions on this): I hear a celeste/chime/bell walk-down-arpeggio during the chorus (yes, I've done that) and some fast upward-moving string arpeggios right the at the end (I wouldn't have a clue how to do that)... Hrm... I do have a sampled celeste (literally the one from Mister Roger's Neighborhood) as well as a string runs library. The celeste idea is interesting, although I don't quite hear it. I'll play around with it, though. I'm a bit worried that bringing in the strings at the last minute would be as jarring as putting a trumpet there (yep, I tried that out). Then I'd be tempted to put strings in all over the place, just so the entrance at the end makes sense. And having just come in from the hot July afternoon, that's just exhausting.  Thanks for listening and your very kind comments.
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Hi, Herb. Heh. That should teach me not to play "guess the vocalist". But I couldn't resist. It won't even be close to the first or last time I'll been wrong today. [quote I haven't used Suno in a long time. My subscription (experiment) expired and it was starting to pop out stuff that was sounding like everything else.[/quote] That's a pretty compelling reason to stop using it, all right. I'd suggest listening again and more closely. She pulls back on the "vree" syllable but it's there. Just like she drops her "g" slightly in "driving". I did listen, a couple of times. Shows how much I need new ears. And yes, I noticed "driving", but there is made sense. By the way, I thought it was Suno only because it does some mighty fine country vocals. So it wasn't intended to disparage the singing. Thanks!
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Hi, Herb. Sounds good! I'd say it's a big, modern sound... But it's been a while since I've listened to modern country, so I can't say. As Deej says, you pound in the earworm of a hook. I love the dobro and mandolin sneaking in to play tasty licks. I've got Jamstix, and wish I could figure it out. Every time I load it up, I just get frustrated and end up using something else. I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm guessing the singer is Suno, because she sings "ever mile leads me back", which looks like a typo, not the sort of error a human singer would make. Jamstix isn't the easiest but the more you work with it the more you realize all the things it can do. I'm just scratching the surface with it. Well, you're wrong. I haven't used Suno in a long time. My subscription (experiment) expired and it was starting to pop out stuff that was sounding like everything else. I'd suggest listening again and more closely. She pulls back on the "vree" syllable but it's there. Just like she drops her "g" slightly in "driving" . Thanks for listening as closely as you do.
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Herb, Outstanding country tune! Hmm, not at liberty to release the singer's name?? Love a good mystery!! And she's fantastic here. The mix is excellent, everything is right where it should be. Love the repeat of "circles" and "lead me back" in that chorus--really good touch that puts it smack in ear worm country. Enjoyed my listen very, very much. Excellent work!! Deej Ear worm.... I agree with you and while ear worm songs can be wearisome I think it works well. Thanks
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Hi Herb, What a beautiful song, beautiful songstress (impressive!), and great band. The chorus is just riveting. Glad you shared it here. Stellar! Thanks for listening. Yes I agree with you
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Herb, superb backing track and great playing. Love the song and the arrangement moves the song along in all the right places at all the right times. The sheen is quite lovely and makes for pleasant listening. The vocals sound really nice, but they do remind me of synth vocals on some lines. Might be something in processing. The ambient FX on the vocals are quite nice. Super song! Thanks for listening. See my reply to ghostgum and see if that answers your question.
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Herb, An amazing production in every aspect... Bob Thank you Bob.
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Hi, Beth. There are some really nice unexpected moments in this, especially with the vocal harmonies. But I also wonder if there may be too many, kinda fighting each other for attention. No need to wonder - I'm sure there are! But the chorus is very cool, the first and last phrases especially. The guitar(s) at 1:28 ... I could stand a few more bars of that. Yes, the "America" (as in the group) break - a nice change in an over-stuffed mix. I look forward to hearing any revisions. I've added a more proper ending, and fixed some issues with the vocal mix. I've also added a touch of guitar to the intro, break, and ending to help glue it together. I'm planning on picking up Waves' new AQ later this week, and slapping it all over the tracks to see what it does. I may also do a bit more trimming on some of the instruments and a few other touches. But I'm going to take a break from the song for a bit so I can hear with fresh ears. Thanks for the helpful comments!
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Yes, I think the use of a good reference song was the first rule I learned in the art of mixing. Jim’s tip about the Youlean Loudness Meter is a good one.
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Thanks folks. We appreciate all the kind thoughts. It’s been a music adventure for us. J&B
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Hi, David. Hey this is cool. It kind of sounds like one of those television show theme songs from back in the day like WKRP in Cincinnati or something like that. I've always envied writers who would pull those off - hook in the listeners with just a few lines, and then into the show. Amazing stuff. Well I probably should stop there. See, this kind of imagination is why you're one of the most prolific and far-ranging writers on this forum. Anyway this has a very cheerful sound to it and I noticed you found that Abbey Road reverb, good for you! I think I have every single one of those Abbey Road plugins and boy are they wonderful. Yep, there's something about getting close to that sound that inspired you to doing music in the first place. Thanks, I appreciate you stopping by to comment.
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Les, that’s correct. This is a very helpful evolutionary change by PG Music to use FLAC files. Another user asked if he could try downloading them (instead of the shipped audiophile SSD drive). When that worked and seemed practical, PG Music made it happen quickly, and at a reduced price!
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Hi, Tom. David, I listened carefully, then read the commentary…wow! What a lot of work you put into it! Glad you stuck with it to completion. If there were an easier way to do it, I'd take that route. Using synthetic vocals is a bit of a pain, but it lets me work out the melody in a way where I don't have to worry about forgetting the melody, so that's great. I suspect that most people put in as much work as I appear to on my songs, but they just don't detail it out the way I do. I have two thoughts: one is that the chord structure is complex (you could have written it with a more simplified chart, but I see that your goal was to explore some more esoteric changes) and therefore the vocal harmonies are tricky—I think at some small points COULD be smoother, but, again, they work with the approach you were after. Yeah, that's a tough one. I'm willing to go back and make changes, and gave it some serious though. I still might, but it's sort of grown on my ear. Secondly, I think a good ending would be, after the stop, to reprise the theme without vocals, then fade it out—that’s what I would do. I've gone back and given it a more proper ending, but the appearance of the electric piano is a bit abrupt. So there's still a good chance I'll go back and have another go at it. But not until I give my ears a rest and can hear it fresh. As always, so much to absorb, learn, take away from your work. Enjoyed it thoroughly!! I'm always happy to be something that can learned from, even if it's sometimes an object lesson on what not to do. Thanks for your positive feedback!
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