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Thanks Noel for posting this thread! I feel like I’ve taken the ‘red pill’. I have also bookmarked The loudnesspenalty.com site (thanks Bud) and trying out the free version of Youlean plugin (thanks Maartian). Andrew
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Moving this to a new thread in the Mac forums. Q: On my BIAB 2025 I can only see a VST2. version of SynthMaster Player. Given VST3. and ( on Macs ) AU are now the standards - and VST2 has long been deprecated and no longer supported by Steinberg - why is there no VST3 or AU version of the SM Player plugin installed? Also - is this an old version of SM Player or the latest SM2 Player? This is a slightly older version of Synthmaster 2 Player. We are using a customized build, as the official build requires purchase/authorization while our build self-authorizes. As it is a customized build we are including only what KV331 has sent us - this being VST2 only. We have requested a VST3 version.
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Users are most likely posting in other forums that we don't have access to. I think that is a fairly normal occurrence. I'm a beta tester and likely the private forums are significant contributors. FWIW Precisely. Beta testing is like Fight Club. The First Rule… The first rule of Fight Club is the first rule of Fight Club. Wait no, that's Tautology Club. Carry on...
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Thanks folks. We appreciate all the kind thoughts. It’s been a music adventure for us. J&B
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Les, that’s correct. This is a very helpful evolutionary change by PG Music to use FLAC files. Another user asked if he could try downloading them (instead of the shipped audiophile SSD drive). When that worked and seemed practical, PG Music made it happen quickly, and at a reduced price!
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Let us know if that happens again as it was most likely a bot detection false positive. Also, you'll get more accurate results if you select your OS.
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Hi, Poloniopus Ray. Given the option of a buried vocal or a upfront version, I quickly clicked the upfront version. Thanks for being accommodating despite your personal preference! The relatively "happy" sounding instrumental was a bit jarring against the lyrics, but the vocals coming back after that point took care of that. This is a song best served with the video.
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Please close Band-in-a-Box, then right click the Windows Start button and go to Settings, then Apps, then search for CoyoteWT and uninstall it if it's there. Then in BIAB go to Help > Utilities > Install Coyote Wavetable Synth, and follow the prompts. Now re-open BIAB and go to Options > MIDI/Audio Driver Setup. Select "No MIDI/sound" for both MIDI Input and Output, then select Use VSTi/DXi Synth, click the VSTi/DXi Synth button below it and select CoyoteWT, then click OK until you're back at the main screen. Now see if it works.
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Floyd, Another terrific tune . . . well worth the revisit! Love, love, love that piano! Killer stuff! Deej
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A friend sent me this lecture thinking I might enjoy it, he was right. Music enthusiasts and especially those that appreciate Pink Floyd may also find this lecture educational and enlightening. Milton Mermikides of Gresham College (established 1597) does a great technical and artful examination of The Dark Side of the Moon. He gets into vocal mimicry, musical expectancy, quietly desperate chords, jazz influences, the rise of electronic music, madness and much more. Life would be so bland if it weren't for brilliant musicians and for intellectuals like Mermikides that can connect dots that many of us would otherwise never connect. Illuminating
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LOL...Mr. Midi. That made me laugh out loud. Too cute. Mario, you do have a way with MIDI. Pass me my drink! Thanx Beth I'm glad you liked it. The drink is on me.
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Hi Janne, thank you for that!
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Not at all "a total disaster". Just little more building the progression and fine tuning the dynamics and it's genuine classic rock. On the other hand you're so great with the latin styles, that it's a pleasure to listen your those songs. I believe, that it's ok to stay at ones "comfort zone", but still having once in a while some adventures outside it. I like to play with different styles, because BiaB is there at it's best. Still I return often back to my roots, rhythm and blues and celtic folk music as born in the 1960s, but also even to Finnish folk music. So don't give up, even getting some critics.
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Perfect title to describe this peaceful music! It feels like I'm in the land of magic with vivid colors and sympathetic creatures. The chords are almost otherworldly, the melody is heavenly and played superbly by those solo instruments with many nice subtle details. The backing band sounds lush and evocative, like from a soundtrack to a fairy tale hit movie. At least this is the finest soundtrack for the first hot summer day of this year. Janne Thanx so much for this wonderful review Janne. I'm glad that you liked it.
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I haven't used the Melody or Soloist tracks with this song. So far, everything seems to be working as it should since I unfroze all the tracks. I'll keep that in mind about the Melody and Soloist tracks, thanks.
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Hi Raquel - there aren't too many flamenco players on here, though I can at best call myself a "previous flamenco student" at best. But if you aren't aware of it - here is an excellent website that might rekindle your interest: http://www.foroflamenco.com/
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Most DAWs are cross-platform but a few are not. BIAB for Windows includes RealBand, unavailable in the Mac version. GarageBand is included in the macOS and LogicPro X is only available for the Mac.
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UPDATE: After checking the local Cellular data providers, the ONLY option was to upgrade my cellphone plan to the highest level and I have a Hotspot that is useable for wi-fi connection. So.... until I get the hardwired internet back restored or upgraded, I have a relatively fast connection. 30mbps down 1.7mbps up faster than my DSL
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... In particular, if I orient the underlying MIDI track to MIDI channel 10 (Right-click on the track > Track Setting > MIDI Channel > 10), it's no longer the piano I'm hearing, but the drums 🤣🤣🤣 (but actually, that's not funny)! Absolutely a clue that the source of the 'other' sound is MIDI.
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I agree with Audiotrack. I cannot see that m(add9) chords are part of BIAB's repertoire at this point in time. Have you tried Fm69? While is adds a D to the sound, it might actually sound okay. The other possibility that I can think of is to use Fm, and generate the track. Next, go through and use playable Realtracks to manually add the G note in one of the major instruments (e.g. piano or guitar) for each of the Fm chords that you want to be Fm(add9). The 9th probably won't need entering in all instruments since it is usually better not to double dissonant notes across too many instruments. After you have done this, you could then freeze the track to keep your work.
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Brian, quite and elegant composition, and pleasing to listen to. Sounds like it could be the opening movement to a much longer piece. Nice job on the arrangement and mix. Sounds great to me!
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Mariaedison3 is right in quoting me. RB will separate typeO into separate tracks
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Really interesting song musically and lyrically, but while this appears to be personal taste I'd like to have heard the vocals a bit more up front.
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Alan, I haven’t been on the forum since January, and I have just read your post about Di. I’m so sorry to hear the sad news. From the progress reports you posted over the last couple of years, it is obvious Di put up such a good and brave fight. Also obvious is the love you shared. I hope you’re going ok, with plenty of support around you. You certainly have many PG Forum friends sending their love. Thinking of you, Mike
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As usual I listened but didn't watch. Nicely assembled piece. The lead sol comes in a wee bit loud but settles down. Good balance of instruments. Aside from the solo guitar and sax the melodies were a little buried. Well done. Thanks for listening, Ray. When various comments are pro aspects and others the opposite I think that some of it is down to the system and/or app one is listening on. Once I have my samples arranged and mixed in Audacity and I think all is balanced I next find that when I play a WAV of the project in 2 Windows players and my preferred VLC player some solos can sound way too low or high in volume, plus I hear different things when I play a track at low, medium and high volumes. I do a lot of testing, mostly having the new track in a playlist so I can make comparisons, but all too often when I upload a video I've approved to YouTube I suddenly hear anomalies I didn't spot previously during numerous listens. Floyd has said he experiences the same.
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