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By the way, everyone, my Studio One 6.2 is running very nicely. I think that was what this thread was supposed to be about.
Yes. It was to inform S1 users that might not check their email frequently, or maybe have Presonus emails diverted to a spam folder that a .2 update was available. One pre-6.2 behaivor that bugged me was when the cursur hit the End flag it would just keep on going, presumably forever. Now you can right-click it and in the menu, select "Stop at marker" and the cursor will now stop when it reaches the End flag . . . just what I want it to do.
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Wow! How to respond/involve one's self in one of these conversations?
For many years we have had a pretty polite and civil forum. It has in fact become more contenious with an increasing amount of unwanted comments.
We all like you, Eddie, you are a pain in the butt at times, but we still like you...lol
There are a couple of other people here who have the effect of causing some of us to just disengage and threads just die as a result. That is not just my take on things but what others also have said to me in PMs.
If you don't like PG Music products, don't buy them. If you want to yell and call people names go to the pound and get yourself a dog and leave us alone.
If we don't control this forum ourselves it will become less and less of a fun/useful place to come to.
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This goes way way back, the same pattern of protectionism.
I asked for simple things like a Solo button on each track for RealBand, and rather than a simple +1 there is all sorts of comments like why would you need this it's fine how it is, fighting resistance.
New guys come ask for improvements and "why Would you need this, it's fine, go away" and there is usually a "gang up" on them.
The most amazing thing, after all this time they still don't get it and see exactly why these products have been held back by "Old Guard" mentality, if users still do this then they are old guard, if not then they are enlightened.
I could die tomorrow BUT you will still have the same problem.
I could of left the forum for good way back then like so many do with negative responses of protectionism, as I delete accounts because I say why bother, but then I come back and try again and again and have not given up, WHY ? is it all done for "ME" what I want personally ?
R.E.S.P.E.C.T ? where was it.
It's not an easy thing to do for one person to bring about change for the better for "everyone", is it ?
I liken it to what is going on in the USA, someone gets who is brash and tells the truth as he sees whats going on and looks to make things better and actually does that (and looses millions from being in and not make millions like the current one), but the old guard don't like it and does every illegal, evil thing to get rid of him and succeeds. Now what state is it in ? a better state or a worse state ? has there been enlightenment coming from learning the hard way ? YES ! is the truth coming out ? YES !
I did not need to learn the hard way as I instantly discerned that ages ago.
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I have mostly used Reaper lately but I also have the older Studio One 3 Prof,so I just upgraded it to
Studio One 6.2. The upgrade price was $153.
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I could die tomorrow BUT you will still have the same problem. You are the only one who seems to have a problem. How do you delete accounts? I once ASKED to have my account completely deleted and was told that because of my level of activity they couldn't do that, as it would require going into threads and deleting my input. It was suggested that I simply forget the site exists and not come here anymore. That might be a solution for you, though you really seem to enjoy arguing with people. Again, reminding me of my father. And again, that's not a compliment. I asked for simple things like a Solo button on each track for RealBand. Huh? I first bought this thing 14 years ago and it has been there in the Real Band DAW since day one. You are trying to turn PG into something it isn't, and trying to recruit people to get on your bandwagon. The mission for PG is to create and sell software meant to CREATE backing tracks. Nothing else does what PG does. Everything you are ranting about is functions of a DAW, not a music GENERATION tool. Generate your tracks, Move them to your DAW of choice and enjoy your fudging. As I suggested in an earlier post, if you don't like what PG is, tool up, sharpen your pencil, put on your propellerhead beanie and put those coding skills you brag about to work as you write your own software. And if it's better than Real Band I will buy it. I would welcome the internet side nerds at PG to track the IPs of this post and see how many accounts Muso has. I think it's at least 2, possibly 3. Isn't there some kind of statement in the TOS about multiple accounts? A lot of people are tired of this nonsense. Only a few of us have the juevos to speak out about it. I have been told several times that if I didn't like it here I was free to leave. I just thought this might be a good place to point that out. This software isn't Reaper. It isn't Cubase. It isn't Pro Tools. It isn't DL Studio. It isn't Studio 1. (Or Studio 54.) Get over it.
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2. Send it to us.
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Look everyone can have an opinion. But thinking you are the only one with the answers, and your way is the only way and anyone who dares to oppose, or resist is wrong, and you are always right!?!?! there is a name for that! it is called Narcissist.
Now before you go off the rails and blow a fuse, I am not calling you one. I am suggesting you might dial it down about three or four notches and try to get on with life. it is simply not your job to change another man's company to suit your views.
This all I have to say on the subject. I will not respond further. Peace be with you.
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You are the only one who seems to have a problem. I've been using BIAB for over 10 years. It has worked fine for me all that time....
Both Studio One and BIAB is working exactly as I would like it to do. Why use Studio One ??? when you have POWER||TRACKS PRO AUDIO it's worked fine for 30 years all that time. Why are we even talking about Studio One ??? Why are you using Reaper Rob and not POWER||TRACKS PRO AUDIO ? Is there a problem ? How do you delete accounts? you delete the email account it's linked to. (Solo Buttons) Huh? I first bought this thing 14 years ago and it has been there in the Real Band DAW since day one.
day one ? tell him Rob. Thanks Eddie I'm glade you enjoy the Solo Buttons. I would welcome the internet side nerds at PG to track the IPs of this post and see how many accounts Muso has. I'm not coming here and rubbishing it and leaving with some phoney IP that needs to be track down because of all the terrible, horrible things I do, I put a hell of a lot of work into making it better, I go out of my way to do this. I have a PG purchasing account that has all my info. I openly tell users I had solidrock pipeline to go look at posts for UserTracks and other helpful info. It's like saying I ignore and don't use math out of spite because I didn't like my math teacher at school, or use a saw because of my woodwork teacher was an &%$^* "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth" No one here has explained why the software is behind, no one, WHY ?? Guys you are exposing it all by your own statements. I'm not stupid I have been here long enough to see how it works from day one, the truth may hurt but none the less it's the truth. Anyone that doesn't do that in any way then you are not old guard and have nothing to worry about. Those that do still do that through lack of understanding, there is still hope for enlightenment. At the end of the day when I'm not here anymore giving you a hard time, what are all the things you will be left with, what will you then have ? real time signatures ? more than 256 bars ? decimal tempo maps ? non destructive editing ? BBPlugin Instant Generation, Playing Direct Instantly ? 48/24 bit audio ? crossplatform ? Biab Live Arranger using plugin code ? not to mention so many things you have got already, all because one guy came here asking nicely for improvements, was given crap, nearly left for good but came back and stood up to all the crap to get the job done. There were so many guys that wanted Rewire, I got that all sorted now because I kept pushing for VstTimeInfo for EZDrummer etc.. then eventually 10 years later it was implemented, so I went looking for all the Rewire guys to let them know that a RewireVST will now work but they were all gone probably were all the other forum users have suddenly gone. Yes guys get rid of him, track his IP down. OMG do you hear yourself, is it a baffling mystery still ?
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I own Reason, BiaB and Studio One. I say „own“, because I do not use these things much.
But I see a pattern repeating in user forums.
Reason was born as a “Rack” of Virtual Instruments
BiaB was born as a Music Generator
And DAWS (IMHO a successor of the old MIDI Sequencer) are born as virtual recording Studios
Notation Software was born as a kind of “Word processor” for Music.
And so on …
In the Reason Forum, many users demand that the vendor should make the Instrument Rack a better DAW.
In the BiaB Forum many users demand that the vendor should make the Music Generator a better DAW.
I do not see this much with DAW users, maybe because in the analogue recording studio world you brought your musicians, your instruments, your notation and maybe some gear along. You just wanted to have enough inputs for the instruments and gear and enough channels to host the music.
Each of the vendors have a core business. And it is good advice to strengthen your strengths (the core business) and not to strengthen your weaknesses (e.g. the lacking DAW capabilities).
All I would ask for, is good interaction between all this pieces (e.g. MIDI, ASIO, MCP, ARA, to name a random few) and to enhance (when needed) the Core functions.
And that would a better use of time and effort.
Just my 2 cents.
If I use my stuff, I use the generator part of BiaB, the Virtual instruments from Reason (and others), Notation software that interacts with my DAW, a MIDI Controller that is nicely integrated and some very specialized tools (e.g. Melodyne) that behave as integral part of the whole setup. That way, each tool does what it does best.
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I was wondering, is there the option to BLOCK someone?
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I was wondering, is there the option to BLOCK someone? Yes. If you click on the user's name (upper left of a post), then View Profile, you will see an option to Ignore This User.
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Ohhhh, Thank you, Matt. Ignore works wonders!
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Does anyone know where justanoldmuso is ? have you seen or heard from him ?
Last I saw him he was trying to bring about change and make RealBand better but was getting GANGED up on.
I would help him out with ideas and prototype designs.
I can't even find the last posts he made about it all.
I guess it's another one got rid of, another one bites the dust, heaven forbid if you try to bring about change, that sends a strong message.
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Here is a useful tip I found on YouTube on how to disable the very disturbing NewsFeed that is coming up everytime one starts Studio One. I guess it also stops the check for updates through the help menu, but then it is only to turn on access through the firewall again. If there is an easier way I would be interested to know, I find the forced News Feed very disturbing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ccgZssWA5Y&list=LL&index=1
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News feed? I don’t see anything like that. I see a very long list of things as they are checked/connected but that’s all.
I’ll read your article.
Do you have Sphere (I do not)?
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Ok, I watched the video and now I understand. It’s the in-software messages/ads, and he shows how to block any program from communicating by using the Windows firewall. Well, ok.
I had to chuckle because the video guy says he is easily distracted. I must have laser focus because these messages didn’t even register for me, but I do have two questions:
1) is Studio One ‘phoning home’ taking up bandwidth or processing power? I would think, yes, and it’s worth blocking for that reason. You don’t want anything else running when using your DAW.
2) wouldn’t this disable automatic startup checking for updates? I have to admit, I like that feature. I assume it checks at startup then goes quiet, but that might be wrong. I’ve never even checked using the menu as you mentioned, because between the email and the startup message about an update, I never needed to. I would hope the program isn’t constantly checking for an update as you use it. Perhaps the way to find out is to go to the firewall and then run Studio One to see what error messages pop up.
Thanks for your post!
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I also have a list rolling of the things as they are connected. It is in the mid section of the screen.
But the News Feed is rolling on the right column of the screen (the first startup screen).
I don't have Sphere.
It seems that many people want to get rid of it but I don't think it is configurable.
Interesting that you don't have it, maybe it is configurable in some way after all, but I haven't found it.
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Yes it blocks the check for update via the help menu at least. I don't know if it is blocket during startup. Anyway I can unlock it when I want to check for updates. I really find the news feed very disturbing.
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I understand now. I’m glad it helps you.
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When I was looking for a DAW was when this forum started to light up with coding to get something to work with Reaper and Band In A Box.
...Deb Sorry to hear that, unfortunately we have no control over all that nonsense. I was wondering, is there the option to BLOCK someone? Yes. If you click on the user's name (upper left of a post), then View Profile, you will see an option to Ignore This User. Ohhhh, Thank you, Matt. Ignore works wonders!
...Deb =================================================================== =================================================================== https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=774106#Post774106These are the original solo sections from a Biab track. Any section I can extend or shorten the original playing. If you watch the video where you have the gaps you can manually merge so there's no stop, you can't do that with a consolidated wav or in Biab now how it is: Reaper-RT-Solo-Extend.mp4 >MusoCity: If you could do the same in Biab/RealBand/Plugin as I can do in Reaper with the track sections it will further improve Biab to allow for more creativity control
Agreed, and this is something planned for BB2024 (and BiaB plug-in w/DAWS like Reaper that support these track sections). This will open up lots of additional options when customizing solos and other tracks. Because of the forum lighting up with  "coding" As I have said, long after I have gone users will be using all these features and functions, including those complaining about me posting stuff and telling the truth ! If they don't want to use them out of spite I can make up a list of things in Biab and BBPlugin from over the 14 years that they can avoid, or better still just use the 2009 version: Band-in-a-Box® Version 2009 and 2009.5 Update - Build 288
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