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#129876 - 10/03/11 12:43 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: Noel96]
Mr_Songman Offline

Registered: 08/16/10
Posts: 114
Loc: Surrey,England
Hi Noel,

Yes I did install ASIO4ALL.

I honestly don't expect instant results - but from a program designed as an audio workstation I do expect sound lol!!

Unfortunately, after spending the whole day searching umpteen forums, and finding countless people having the same problem with Reaper - I still have no sound.

Or if I do have sound, the playback is slow, distorted and echoey. I'm sure there's an obvious fix for this but I'm damned if I can find it - and damned if I care anymore.

I'm sure I should be able to achieve what I want in Realband - he said optimistically!!

I won't take up anymore of your time - you've been more than generous with your time.

Thank you

Music is what feelings sound like.

#129877 - 10/03/11 02:40 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: Mr_Songman]
Steve Young Offline

Registered: 06/17/10
Posts: 1625
Loc: Canyon Lake, TX
Hey Martin,

I don't know about where you live, but where I am, in most of the larger music stores they offer lessons (for a fee) for just about anything musical. Not only for instruments, but for recording software, etc. as well. I have never taken advantage of any of them, but they seem to have pretty knowledgeable personnel. I would think it may be worth making a small investment (in one or two lessons) to have someone help you get your software setup, and give you a short get-started class to just be able to accomplish your simple goals.

It sounds like you have reached a wall of frustration that is keeping you from getting where you want to go. (That happens to all of us. ) It just might help to have someone who is not frustrated to help you get back to a more peaceful place.

Since you've already invested in Reaper, just one more small investment may get you there.

Good luck!

Steve Young
"In order to compose, all you need to do is remember a tune that nobody else has thought of." - Robert Schumann

#129878 - 10/03/11 07:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: Steve Young]
Noel96 Offline

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13055
Loc: Australia

What are the specifications of your computer, what operating system do you use, and what soundcard is installed?


#129879 - 10/06/11 02:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: Noel96]
anieyo Offline

Registered: 10/06/11
Posts: 18
Hi Martin, very groovy song! I'm curious, why can't you just do your recording/mixing with RealBand? It does the same things as other DAWs and works well with BIAB. For vocals, I hook up a USB mic to my PC and record directly into Realband, where I can mix it with the other realtracks. RealBand also has a good set of built-in plugins, like gain, reverb, EQ, etc.

I think sometimes we can get too caught up with the technology aspect when the whole point is to make our song sound good and professional. I think BIAB + Realband is good enough to create a professional song.

postcards from the soul @

#129880 - 10/06/11 11:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: anieyo]
gibson Offline

Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 3025
Loc: wales
I believe anieyo is right Martin, for your needs at the moment. Start with a programme (yeh I'm British) that is made for BIAB. Apart from it being an excellent starter DAW the forums are excellent as advice is always available.

I believe many of the contributors use Real Band or Power Tracks for their recordings and then eventually move on to different DAWs. I use Cubase SX1 myself as I got a freebie years back with my 1st PC and upgraded for a while, as I understood it.

Use BIAB and RealTracks/PowerTracks to write and record your songs then move on if you want to, to Reaper etc.

I had a 1680 which was great for recording live bands but mixing was very hard with the little screen and the sub-sub-sub menus. I actually swapped it for a good PC, many many years ago, best thing I ever done Apart from adding computer gear to my addiction for new musical stuff

My showcase songs

#129881 - 10/06/11 08:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: gibson]
MusicStudent Offline

Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 5483
Loc: Chicago
Well a little unusual to find all this "DAW setup" discussion over in this forum. I do think I saw someone suggest this be moved to the Off-Topic so this could be really worked out. Shame it hasn't been the song and vocals show a lot of promise and talent - but the vocals and not set right in the mix. Which is what Song_man can hear himself. I am sure the issues with Reapear and your computer (of which you never provide details) could be worked out. Heck we have had folks literally login remotely to newbees machines (ala Teamviewer) to do the necessary configurations.

Unfortunately Mr_Songman does not seem to be inclinded to invest the time and effort to bring the power of a DAW to solve the problem - I don't mean that critically, it just ain't for everyone . I think You did suggest going to a pro-shop to record and I agree, they will do wonders with your talent.

Good luck.

#129882 - 10/06/11 08:16 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: Noel96]
MusicStudent Offline

Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 5483
Loc: Chicago


What are the specifications of your computer, what operating system do you use, and what soundcard is installed?


Bingo, that is the right question!

#129883 - 10/25/11 02:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: MusicStudent]
Mr_Songman Offline

Registered: 08/16/10
Posts: 114
Loc: Surrey,England
Hi guys,

Just wish to apologise to one and all for not getting back to you sooner regarding all the helpful advice given in this thread.

Unfortunately I suffer from a Bipolar disorder which sometimes sends me into a deep dark state of despair that makes me shut myself away for varying periods of time.
This one hit me as I was already going through a frustrating time regarding my recording problems which may have exacerbated the nosedive. But I doubt it
They hit me with no rhyme or reason.

Anyway just wanted to let you know that I am grateful for all the help and advice given by all you great guys on here - and now that I'm raring to go again and back on top, I shall endeavour to do something with it.

I am still having problems but, as has been suggested, I shall direct my questions to the off topic forum as I'm sure you all have the knowledge that I sadly lack.

I have just ordered the M Audio Fast Track Pro, and I have been exploring and experimenting with Realband, which seems an overly complicated programme but that maybe because I'm not used to it.

The oh so perfect answer for me would be for PG to add 3 or 4 more Audio tracks to BIAB and I'd never need another DAW. I could do all I want in there!!

Although I did purchase Reaper I have still had no success getting any sound out of it - but I will try and deal with that on the proper forum - where I shall list the specs of my machine!!

Thank you all once again for taking the time to help - I am truly grateful. If anyone can get me up and recording, it's you guys.

Thanks again!!

Music is what feelings sound like.

#129884 - 10/25/11 07:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: gibson]
redguitars Offline

Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 618
Loc: US
The recording is great. It's a perfect snapshot of you performing this song.

The song is great. I love everything about it. But I really love the lyrics. You really hit the nail on the head.

It's my kind of song. It's something I wish I could write.

Great work and I dig your voice too.
a new fan, Wayne,
"My Music Page"

#129885 - 10/25/11 11:22 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: gibson]
Zan Cantwell Offline

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 114
Loc: Guitar Town
Great song and a heartfelt delivery...dig it to the max

#129886 - 10/25/11 12:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: gibson]
90 dB Offline

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4607
Loc: Florida
Love this one Martin. Especially like the chorus.


Dyslectics Untie!

#129887 - 10/25/11 05:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: gibson]
MarioD Offline

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 10890
Loc: Hamlin NY
Another great song from the Songman! Again super lyrics and mix. Personally I wouldn’t change a thing.

I agree with you about mixing. That is the hardest part of the process for me. I would rather just play! Alas I don’t have a lot of money so I must do everything myself. Based on your last two upload it appears that you have a very good handle on mixing.

My advice about DAWs is to pick the one you want and stick to it until you master it. That hardest part about a DAW is setting your computer up with the right drivers, buffer sizes, etc.. However once that is done you do not have to worry about it.
The only exercise I did this month was run out of money!

64 bit Win 10 Pro - the latest BiaB and RB - Roland Octa-Capture audio interface - a ton of software and some hardware.

#129888 - 10/25/11 10:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: MarioD]
airtcon-161 Offline

Registered: 10/24/11
Posts: 135
MarioD is right. I just switched over to cubase 5 from a tascam 2488 and after getting things set up with the right drivers etc I am quite happy. Very nice song by the way. I like your voice and it certainly suits the song. Well done



#129889 - 10/26/11 09:18 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: redguitars]
Mr_Songman Offline

Registered: 08/16/10
Posts: 114
Loc: Surrey,England
Hi Wayne,

Thank you for those kind words - very glad you liked it.

I've just been listening to your stuff on Soundclick - and you blew me way!

As for my song being something you wished you could write - you can. And then some!!

Songs like Night After Night, I'll Get Us Through and Alone In This Room are superb!! I just love them.

Anyone on here who hasn't heard them, take a listen!!!

Great songwriting!!

A new fan.

Music is what feelings sound like.

#129890 - 10/26/11 09:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: One More Time [Re: Zan Cantwell]
Mr_Songman Offline

Registered: 08/16/10
Posts: 114
Loc: Surrey,England
Thanks Zan - glad you dug it!!
Music is what feelings sound like.

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