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#133332 - 11/14/11 02:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: rharv]
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The SD-35 is actually a sound module and midi file player built into one unit. It plays midi files on a 3.5" floppy disk. I have a unit where the player part of it is bad, however, it can still be used for the sound module portion. So far so good, I haven't gotten the buffer full problem. I have only the MIDI In connected with the USB interface. The SD-50 just came out last year and it's the replacement for the SD-35.. Why it took Roland so many years to come out with a replacement is beyond me. It looks to be a pretty nice unit though!

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#133333 - 11/14/11 03:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: mc3997]
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After reading your original post, I dusted off my Roland SC-88 Pro and played a few midi files and then some BIAB files through it.

I would have to agree that it is miles ahead of Cakewalks TTS-1, Forte or any other virtual GM synth. I started out with a SB-55/SC-55 combination, moved up to a laptop/SC-55 and then to a Laptop/SC-8 Pro.

The SC-88 is now about 17 years old and is still in the same condition I bought it and is still playing strong. Still have the original box and packaging.

Cheers

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#133334 - 11/14/11 05:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: Kevin Woolley]
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Now you guys see why I'm a Roland fan? The sounds last many years, the hardware just as long .. I have replaced the floppy drive in a couple units; that seems to be the weak point. However, that said, some of those sample/sequence units allow connecting a SCSI hard drive. Much larger, more reliable and faster.
Anyway, glad to hear others hear the same thing. The hardware Roland stuff gets the job done.
I'm sure other brands do too, but I have had such great luck with Roland units I just stick with them as a preference. The menus and such make sense from unit to unit. Can't say the same about Yammie stuff; it just gets too frustrating (and time consuming) for me at times. Nice sounds but I don't want to spend all day getting the track down (and people don't want to pay for all day either!).

For the record, mc3997 , the SD50 also does audio, which the SD35 never did. It doubles as an audio recording interface.
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#133335 - 11/14/11 05:50 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: rharv]
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rharv, my Dad would agree with you about the Roland gear. I don't even know if there are any units comparable to the SD-35, and now SD-50? I'd like to hear how the tones in the SD-50 sound actually.. Have you made any recordings with that unit in BiaB?

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#133336 - 11/14/11 06:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: mc3997]
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I do not have an SD-50, sorry. I just know it also added an audio interface to the SD-35.
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#133337 - 11/15/11 12:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: rharv]
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Since I have a Sonic Cell I read the Roland forums and the talk about the SD-50 is it sounds pretty close to the SC and some say it's the same as the SC, that means the sounds are much more modern and some are taken from the Fantom series. Please understand however this is just what I've read, I've never heard the SD-50.

Bob
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#133338 - 11/16/11 12:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: jazzmammal]
mc3997 Offline
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Bob, when you say the same as the SC, are you referring to the SC-88 referred to in the previous posts in this thread?

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#133339 - 11/16/11 01:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: mc3997]
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I *think* jazzmammal may be using the 'SC' for Sonic Cell in his post, not the older SC-** series synths. A lot of the older original SC-** series synths were actually using 12 to 16 bit samples (yeah I know, those numbers look weird but they are what they are). Most S-series samplers and earlier Roland synths were 12 bit samples. They were 12/32kHz (as opposed to todays common 16/44 or 24/48 samples) Around the release of the RAP-10 soundcard (Win-95 era) was when Roland started sampling 16 bit, using the newer processors.

Sonic Cell and Fantoms use mainly 16 to 24 bit samples. So there is a different sound from the original synths. I don't know if some of the older samples were just converted from 12 to 16, but suspect that if so it was not very many of them.


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#133340 - 11/16/11 01:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: rharv]
mc3997 Offline
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Wow that Sonic Cell is pretty nice sounding, heard a few of the sounds demo'd online!

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#133341 - 11/16/11 01:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What to replace old Roland SCD-15 daughterboard with? [Re: mc3997]
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Makes a difference going to the better bitrates, doesn't it? I have a Juno-G that I like a lot. Probably using a lot of the same samples.
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