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#158371 - 07/31/12 11:15 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Footswitch control of BIAB [Re: Pat Marr]
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Now let me throw a wrench in here. Pedals connect to a USB port. The USB bus doesn't really know WHAT is connected to it, just that SOMETHING is connected to it. The human interface type devices all have a "code", a hardware ID that identifies it.

If, as in a previous post, you use one pedal for f3 to open, another pedal for scrolling, and the third for enter, you run out of pedals before you get to "play".

So how about adding a second set of pedals?

In theory, they SHOULD get a unique hardware ID and not conflict with the first set. (In theory....) That would give you 3 more actions for your pedals to perform.

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#158372 - 08/01/12 01:39 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Footswitch control of BIAB [Re: eddie1261]
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If anybody on the forum has tried using more than one pedal, I'd like to hear how it worked. My guess is that 2 of the same brand would have a higher likelihood of a hardware conflict than two pedals of different brands. But, maybe not.

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#158373 - 08/01/12 08:57 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Footswitch control of BIAB [Re: Pat Marr]
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Since nobody's answering from direct experience...

On my piano, I have a second mouse, a second keyboard, a touchpad, and one of those foot pedals, all hooked up through a USB hub. They stay nicely out of each others' way, and they have caused no conflict with the same peripherals located on the desk. Just grab any mouse that's handy, and it mouses. Type half the line on one keyboard and do the other half on the other, if you want.

If that mess works on Windows XP, I should be very surprised if two foot pedals failed to live peacefully together. USB is just very good about these things.


EDIT I thought of one potential problem. The software has three slots, assigning different keystroke values to as many as three pedals. They are programmable HID keyboards with one key each. The software works for pedals wired together as one. Whether it can program two or three separate pedals is not clear. [Eddie posted about the same problem below, while I was laboring though this.] Personally, I won't bother finding out, because one pedal is only slightly useful, and the second would have nothing to do.


Edited by allis (08/02/12 10:39 AM)
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#158374 - 08/02/12 08:09 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Footswitch control of BIAB [Re: allis]
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From a computer bits and bytes perspective, there is no reason a 2nd set of pedals SHOULDN'T work. RB doesn't know WHAT is sending a command, just that something is. Since I have never owned pedals, let me ask someone who does this question. When you run the software that is used to assign pedals to a keystroke, does the software need to keep running or does that info get stored into an ini file, run when you start it to invoke the use of the pedlas and then stop (terminate stay resident) or does it run in the background all the time to hold that configuration? If it is the latter, I would have my doubts that 2 of the same model would work because both of them want to have a pedal called "A", of "Left" or "1" or whatever.

The dual mouse and keyboard scenario is not going to be the same thing because those things are human interface devices and don't have a configuration to make it assignable. By that I mean that the "X" key is always the "X" key unless you do a keyboard map. In that case, you would again be involving a configuration, but I think I have known exactly 3 people in 30 years of tech support who remapped their keyboard. My keyboard has the ; and the ' switched because when I type, I ALWAYS hit the ; when I want an ' , so I just switched the keys, first logically on a keyboard map and then physically on the keyboard.

2 sets of pedals running different mapping software seems to be the issue, not how many USB devices.
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