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#166096 - 11/17/12 10:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: Lubomir]
AdrianDelso Offline

Registered: 11/08/12
Posts: 40
These PC/Mac wars go on everywhere. Can anyone (briefly) explain what functionality the Mac version lacks compared to the equivalent PC version?
iMac, MOTU 828 MkII, Western Drive EHD, M-Audio Axiom 25, plus too many instruments, mics, leads, crap, etc.

#166097 - 11/17/12 11:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: AdrianDelso]
PeterGannon Offline
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Registered: 05/29/00
Posts: 13403
))) These PC/Mac wars go on everywhere. Can anyone (briefly) explain what functionality the Mac version lacks compared to the equivalent PC version?

The features are very similar, and the gap is closing. The main difference in the past was the notation, the Windows version has a leadsheet window, jazz font available, guitar tab and other notation features. But all that was added to the Mac version in version 2012.5.

The Mac version doesn't have an audio track. I don't think that feature is used that much in the Windows side, and I haven't heard many users asking for it. This is because you can drag the files into other DAWS that have many audio tracks available.

Both the Windows and Mac versions play the same songs and styles and sound the same. In many cases the Mac version sounds better, likely due to better audio output hardware than some Windows machines.

There are some features that the Mac version has that Windows doesn't have . Also some big advantages for the Mac version due to the Mac architecture of the audio. The Windows version has audio latency with MIDI, requiring you to use ASIO drivers if you want to get rid of it. The Mac version doesn't have this issue, as the latency is low to begin with, so no added drivers required.

BTW, the estimates of Mac users at 5% is way too low. It might be correct for corporate use, but among musicians (and hence BiaB users) it is far higher. That's why continue to work hard in development on both Mac and Windows versions, as we have for the last 23 years.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.

#166098 - 11/17/12 04:57 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: PeterGannon]
PhilMol Offline

Registered: 06/02/00
Posts: 371
Loc: Netherlands
Hi Peter,

You and your team did a very good job closing the gap between the PC and MAC versions. Personally I don't miss the audio part. I'm using both MAC and PC versions, but I do prefer the MAC version.


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#166099 - 11/18/12 04:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: PhilMol]
Lubomir Offline

Registered: 12/11/07
Posts: 50
maybe one thing missing is the ear-training...and the conductor

#166100 - 11/18/12 10:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: Lubomir]
RobSm Offline

Registered: 11/18/12
Posts: 1
Loc: NSW Australia
I hope it's OK to join this thread & ask a newer question...I have v 12 build 21 running on an iMac 10.6.8.

(We switched to Mac after becoming thoroughly peed off with crashing PC's & data recover - no problems like that)

anyway, while I can put up with some of the clunkiness in the Mac version, one thing that astounds me is the print formatting. The spacing of the lines in the stave seems to go 'small,large,small,large' with the result that some passages are unreadable because the notes appear in the wrong places. - and graphics is supposed to be a Mac attarction.

Is there a way/setting to fix this?

I have to transfer files & run to an old PC to print a readable version of a chart. BTW the PC printout is very good.

#166101 - 11/19/12 12:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: PeterGannon]
drjay Offline

Registered: 11/18/12
Posts: 1
Hi Peter
I too have changed to BB for Mac. But I also have a number of style files on my PC. Can I transfer these to my Mac and install them? If yes How?

#166102 - 11/19/12 07:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB Peter Gannon [Re: RobSm]
AdrianDelso Offline

Registered: 11/08/12
Posts: 40
Thank you for the reply.
Hadn't noticed the absence of an audio track - I intend to use BIAB as a compositional/arranging tool and not a DAW.
Totally agree with your point about musicians (and, indeed, many creative types in film, design, architecture, photography, etc.) preferring Macs, so PG's customer base will certainly have different demographic.
iMac, MOTU 828 MkII, Western Drive EHD, M-Audio Axiom 25, plus too many instruments, mics, leads, crap, etc.

#166103 - 11/25/12 11:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: PC to MAC and BIAB [Re: PeterGannon]
jag5040 Offline

Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 9
Scrolling, would be happy (relatively) if that was fixed. customizing toolbar a distant 2nd.
but SCROLLING definitely.

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