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#184074 - 12/11/12 08:18 PM [User Showcase] Interesting scenario
eddie1261 - gone Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
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The forum rules state that we can't post links to previously recorded copyrighted material. However, does that include remakes of songs written by people here, on the condition that permission was given?

That situation is about about to happen and I want to make sure that this doesn't violate the rules.

I have resigned my forum account. I will no longer be posting.

#184075 - 12/11/12 08:56 PM [User Showcase] Re: Interesting scenario [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
Kemmrich Offline

Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1815
If someone is going to do a "cover" of one of your songs and you give permission, then no copyright laws have been broken. You are in charge of the "right to copy" for your songs.
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#184076 - 12/11/12 09:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Interesting scenario [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
Pat Marr Offline

Registered: 10/25/08
Posts: 7508
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC
I think the spirit of the law is that PGMusic doesn't want to host anything that even remotely looks like they endorse or encourage copyright infringement.

Posting a well known (C) song, even if you paid a fee to remake it on your CD, would probably be frowned upon, because nobody knows you paid for the rights, and others would jump on the bandwagon and start posting (C) songs too.

But if you're asking whether it would be problematic to post a remake of a song that has never been heard outside this forum, and you have permission from the original song writer...

... I'd start by getting that person to post their permission and approval in the same thread where you post the song.

I can't speak for PGMusic, but due to the extremely low likelihood of legal repercussions, I'd guess you won't get any flack.

if this goes wrong wrong all wrong, it was EDDIE'S idea, not mine! Under the bus he goes, faster than an ex-wife can take half your stuff!

#184077 - 12/11/12 09:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: Interesting scenario [Re: Pat Marr]
eddie1261 - gone Offline

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if this goes wrong wrong all wrong, it was EDDIE'S idea, not mine! Under the bus he goes, faster than an ex-wife can take half your stuff!

In the future, please refrain from using "Eddie", "ex-wife", "half your stuff" and "under the bus" that close together in a paragraph.

Been there, been there, been there - done that, done that, and done that. And THEY got the t-shirt.

I gotta say though, they all have nice homes..... (and how'd you get away with losing only half???)

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But on to the topic....

The particulars... it's my song, which I previously posted about a year ago with a link to Soundcloud (it is sitting on 155 plays), and it was redone by Rog and one of his young students. They took the song and remained very faithful to the original yet took it in another direction, and did a very good job on it. They had my blessing from day one so there are no copyright issues. It is copyrighted, by me, and he asked if they could redo it and if they could post it on Soundcloud, and of course I agreed.

Rog is a VERY fine musician and producer, and his students are quite talented. It's just great to see someone in our age range so involved with nurturing young talent. His producer ears hear places to put parts that my brute force in your face ears don't. I have always been in bands that played so loud that we blew your clothes back against your body and never learned finesse until recently. Though I still use a 16 pound sledge to kill an ant....
I have resigned my forum account. I will no longer be posting.

#184078 - 12/11/12 10:19 PM [User Showcase] Re: Interesting scenario [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
Sundance Offline

Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 4136
My opinion is if ROG is using BIAB/RB to remake your song and has your permission it's fine. Otherwise, I'd think it goes in the OT forum.

For sure this discussion should have gone there.


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#184079 - 12/12/12 08:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: Interesting scenario [Re: Sundance]
ROG Offline

Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 2515
Loc: York, England
Eddie -

It doesn't look like there's a problem here, but to be on the safe side, why don't you post it and just link to the track on our Soundcloud page. You know both me and Jess and how it's all put together and you own the copyright.

How easy is that?


#184080 - 12/13/12 04:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: Interesting scenario [Re: ROG]
dcuny Offline

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2121
Loc: Sacramento, California

Been there, been there, been there - done that, done that, and done that. And THEY got the t-shirt.

Now, if you change that to:

Been there, done that, and she got the t-shirt.

You've got a nice inner rhyme, and a twist on an overused phrase.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the song!
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?


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RealTracks Patch Update for Windows Users

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Summary of RealTracks Audio updates:
Improved: There were small issues with the tuning of several Bass styles. This has been fixed for both the original mix and the direct input mix. This affects the following RealTracks:
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Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest (free) update patch (519) here.

Summary of changes:
Added: Additional dialog available for detailed information in the StyleMaker (fields for memo, examples, and other parameters). These are set in the StyleMaker (more dialog, a button called "Style Memos etc").
Added: Help Video button Added to the Audio Harmony dialog.
Improved: ABC opening improvements with some accidentals, and leadin bars that occur in middle of song.
Improved: Audio harmonies now used Improved algorithms, and can be easily set using N voices above, M voices below (and have additional functions like duplicate melody, and dup. melody octave below).
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Fixed: Audio harmonies might be missing some notes.
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Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash on bootup with error "Read Beyond end of file".
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Fixed: File > Open Special > Open Audio was importing audio instead of opening it in a new song.
Fixed: In the Bar Settings window, "Chordsheet and Notation - Start a New Line" should say "Notation - Start a New Line".
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Fixed: Misc. RealTracks updates.
Fixed: Quicklist drums picker sometimes showing too many drums in the list.
Fixed: Redundant flash messages were showing.
Fixed: Removing a custom drums from a track would still display Drums as the name of the loop in the track.
Fixed: Rendering audio while there is a region of bars highlighted in the chord sheet might cause a crash.
Fixed: Saving a MIDI file would fail unless saving as type 1.
Fixed: Some 12-key RealTracks were incorrectly set to allow transposition.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog needed some hints.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog was missing the new Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: The VJT application should print out its version number in log files.

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Polish New Features Video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows

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