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#192124 - 01/26/13 08:44 PM [Off-Topic] For keyboard players who've always wanted to wail on guitar, check this out.
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MusicLab RealLPC (Les Paul Custom) and Strat and acoustic and probably others. I'm not blown away too often but this is freakin amazing. The plugin lists for $249.

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#192125 - 01/27/13 04:10 AM [Off-Topic] Re: For keyboard players who've always wanted to wail on guitar, check this out. [Re: jazzmammal]
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Good voice too )
Every Day I use BIAB and love it

#192126 - 01/27/13 05:55 AM [Off-Topic] Re: For keyboard players who've always wanted to wail on guitar, check this out. [Re: ZeroZero]
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Posts: 987
Loc: NYC
Amazing - this is actually a great model for me. I had mentioned in a previous post that I would love to get the sounds typically uniuqe to a violin from a guitar synth. And Mac wisely pointed out to avoid those techniques that the guitar synth can't really emulate well, and just play to the guitar synth/violin sounds' strengths.

I would think many of the sounds typically unique to guitar would be difficult or impossible to emulate from a keyboard - but I'm very impressed with this emulation. Though it wasn't apparent to me if this was MIDI, and the more I think about it - probably not. Perhaps the trick to this great emulation is 'real tracks' ? (pun intended : ) - e.g. real samples ?

So if they can get this great guitar sound from a keyboard - I have hope at doing the same using my guitar to play violin sounds - without the limitations that, IMHO, are lacking from many of the guitar synth violin sound emulators I've heard.

#192127 - 01/27/13 09:29 AM [Off-Topic] Re: For keyboard players who've always wanted to wail on guitar, check this out. [Re: Joe V]
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Registered: 12/06/11
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Loc: Florida
It is quite amazing software. Spent alot of time looking into these plugs and finally settled on the RealLPC and the RealGuitar acoustic. Either has better guitar emulations than my Motif or Fantom. Run both 32 and 64 bit versions. Have no issues with either BIAB or RB in 32 bit. In addition to being able to "play" lead both have hundreds of auto strum patterns built in. Have to admit though, that Jeff Abbott has chops that could make anything sound great!
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#192128 - 01/27/13 07:24 PM [Off-Topic] Re: For keyboard players who've always wanted to wail on guitar, check this out. [Re: Joe V]
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Joe, this is midi. People keep trying to say midi is dead. They just don't know what they don't know. This midi doesn't sound dead to me, it's all about how you use it. People complain all the time about midi sounding bad or cheesy, they're just not willing or don't know to spend the cash for the good stuff. $249 for these killer guitar sounds is well worth it imho but I haven't looked for other plugins that can do this. For all I know this isn't the best one out there. I've been surfing around a lot checking stuff out since Xmas and I can tell you my eyes have been opened wide. There's some amazing things going on with midi, it's far from dead, if anything it's getting stronger.

Learning how to play that keytar or regular keyboard with a ribbon controller is a whole art form by itself and people are doing this kind of thing all the time. You can do this with a pitch bend wheel but you would have to program it for the right amount of bending but I think a ribbon would work best and it so happens my Kurzweil takes a ribbon and I may pick one up. This is another one of those "I don't need it" things but it looks like so much fun. True, you can't allow yourself to get blinded by a virtuoso player like this guy but I'm not exactly chopped liver myself, I can do this with some practice.

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#192129 - 01/27/13 07:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: For keyboard players who've always wanted to wail on guitar, check this out. [Re: Joe V]
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What never fails to crack me up about guitar players who finally invest in a MIDI guitar or MIDI guitar pickup setup is that invariably the first thing they try to do is emulate -- a guitar.

So they set the MIDI synth up for some guitar patch and proceed to play their guitar like they always do, and when what comes out sounds nothing at all like what they are used to getting from their guitar, they stop right there and declare MIDI to be useless.

Never made much sense to me, for if they want to hear a guitar, well, they already have one.

Then there's the type who fixate on one lonely MIDI Instrument Patch that isn't very capable of emulating the true sound of that one instrument, and declare MIDI to be nothing but a toy. Ignoring all the other patches that do indeed sound like the real thing, such as pianos, clavinets, vibes, organs.

Hey, find out what you and your equipment CAN emulate, and highlight the good.

If whatever MIDI setup you have at hand, be it a guitar or a keyboard or a wind instrument or the computer, whatever, if it doesn't do a good enough job of emulating, say, a fiddle, to your liking -- then don't use it to emulate a fiddle. That does not mean it won't do a great job at some other patch. But be advised that some other player with the same exact stuff is likely to turn in a pretty good sounding fiddle track where they emphasize what it CAN do and don't bother with what it can't.

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Summary of Changes for Build 5
Added: When generating the input file for saving as an MGU/SGU SongMode128= is saved to the input file.
Added: Localization support for 2018.
Added: flyby hints to new dialogs.
Fixed: Save As with a filename greater than 128 chars could cause an error 123 plus access violation.
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Fixed: Pressing the Change button in the Event List Window could result in an access violation if an event was not a Note event.
Fixed: When running in Win 10, and using BBW or PT to generate audio harmonies, an error would occur saying that you need BB 2011 or PT 12 to generate audio harmonies.
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Fixed: Delete All Notes on This Peg menu item in notation window right-click menu was missing.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Build 512 Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows customers can download the latest free patch update here:

Summary of changes for Build 512 since 510 (Feb 15 2018):
Fixed: "Load SoundTrack Song" and "Load song with RealDrums Audio" buttons in the Sound Track dialog were not working.
Fixed: After returning Band-in-a-Box to factory settings the File Open dialog would default to the bb\Data\Lib directory.
Fixed: Choosing a custom chord sheet font would ignore any color choice made in the font selection dialog.
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PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is here! PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 includes many new features and enhancements:

Windows Audio (WASAPI) driver support. This allows for low latency audio recording/playback without requiring ASIO. Note that this supports 1 stereo input plus 1 stereo output at a time. For multiple inputs/outputs, you should continue to use either MME or ASIO.

ABC Notation format support. You can save a track of notation in a popular ASCII text format to import into other programs, or you can paste this format into a user forum as a way of sending the track (usually the melody and chord symbols) to other users without having to attach a file.

The built-in Audio Chord Wizard detection in the Chords window automatically detects the chords of the song, based on the audio data from all non-muted audio tracks. This works similar to the standalone Audio Chord Wizard, except that it uses the current bar lines of the existing song.

Notation Enhancements:
-X/8 time signature support. This is a special method of displaying 6/8, 9/8, or 12/8 time signatures in the Notation window.
-The Duplicate previous chord in notation right-click menu lets you quickly duplicate the previous chord (group of notes on same peg) without having to reenter it.
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We released the much-loved Xtra Styles PAKs in August 2016! This release included 164 RealStyles for Jazz, Country, Rock-Pop, and Singer/Songwriter and worked with any Band-in-a-Box® 2016 or higher UltraPlusPAK, EverythingPAK, or Audiophile Edition!

Xtra Styles PAKs were such a hit... we couldn't stop making them! Since their introduction, we've released 3 more PAKs with a total of over 600 Xtra Styles in all!

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"The premiere reason for me for buying this program; it has given me the freedom to fully complete the foundation for my songs without the confinement of limited minded musicians. After the song concept is complete, it can then be presented those musicians to play as a cover song. Also writing a song with a band gives them partial ownership of your idea... not cool... especially since they may have fought your idea every step of the way.. Every member of an organized band should own a copy of this program to compose or to even give legitimate composition alternatives to the original songwriter."
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Support for ABC Notation Format in Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows!

ABC notation is the simple text-based notation system used by musicians worldwide to store chords, melody, and lyrics of songs. Now with Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows you can open and save songs in ABC notation format!

To save the song in ABC notation format, press the [Save As] toolbar button and choose Save as ABC notation file from the menu. Once opened, select a track that you want to save and choose your other criteria - The [Copy to clipboard] button will copy the file to the clipboard (that you can then paste it into other programs). The [Save as File] button will let you type a name and select the destination in your hard drive.

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