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#199300 - 03/26/13 11:54 AM [Off-Topic] Still Around
John Conley Offline

Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 8333
Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
I have had a tough post treatment for Stage IV Cancer depression.

One of the things my wife insisted on was going to visit my best friend who is wintering near San Diego.

We went on a tour of the Kanusul Instrument factory where the Zig is still working at 80 something, making French Horns every day.

Here are some shots:

When my buddy asked about gold plating, they had a tank for trumpets and cornets. It was small and when he asked about larger horns the guide told us it was 5,000 for a trumpet in materials. No one would pay the 12 to 50k (for a tuba) so what would they have a tank tied up for that?

They have almost one of every model trumpet and most other horns for comparison purposes. And they make all the little crooks a pieces in every size so people can order just a part. Some other manufacturers use their valves and other pieces they all make by hand.

I hope you enjoy this. I loved my vacation, but am unused to being away from my wife for that long.

I got tickets on SW airlines from Detroit (NOT Det riot as in that July in the 60's!) The return flight was 228$ US. Great deal no?
John Conley
Musica est vita

#199301 - 03/26/13 12:08 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: John Conley]
90 dB Offline

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4591
Loc: Florida
Good to see you back John. Cool pictures, especially the plating tank.


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#199302 - 03/26/13 12:18 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: 90 dB]
John Conley Offline

Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 8333
Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
Thanks. I have had big issues with parents. My Mother had an upper hernia strangle her bowel and had surgery. I got on the plane to San Diego and got a text as we took off, she had an Abdominal aortic aneurysm that started leaking badly and they had to put in a stent, then 3 days later my Dad had a minor stroke. I have to drive him to the hospital every day, and they concluded he cannot care for her so she is going to a nursing home (permanent type). At the moment they are awaiting a bed. With the cold I had maybe I should have played in a couple of the better ones and, no...

It was very cool to see the whole process, there is not one part they don't make. (Unless you order a bach mouthpiece or something.

Anyway, off to ferry my Dad who lives 8 miles from me, back near me to the hospital for his afternoon visit.

John Conley
Musica est vita

#199303 - 03/26/13 12:30 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: John Conley]
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Registered: 10/21/07
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Loc: Buford, GA
Loved the photos as well. Good stuff. Welcome back, John!


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#199304 - 03/26/13 12:45 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: MikeK]
Matt Finley Offline

Registered: 07/12/00
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Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
John, I saw some of your shots on Facebook. Nice! I would love to visit the Kanstul factory, too. My main horn (flugel) is a Kanstul. Did you meet Charles Hargett? Zig, even?

Thanks for posting. Glad you're back with us.
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#199305 - 03/26/13 01:18 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: Matt Finley]
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA

Great photo's and the nice page you presented them on.
Thank you for sharing.

Bummer on your health glitches, then both of your folks.

Hang in there, we're thinking of you!

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#199306 - 03/26/13 01:45 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: seeker]
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Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 1024
Loc: Lake Keowee, South Carolina
Great photos John...real American craftsmanship there!
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#199307 - 03/26/13 02:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: MountainSide]
Don Gaynor Offline

Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 7724
Loc: Oklahoma, USA
My slightly older brother recently died of an abdominal aortic aneurysm. He was dead before he hit the floor. He was simply trying to get up from the sofa. Sorry about your parents. "Aging ain't for sissies!"

#199308 - 03/26/13 02:19 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: Matt Finley]
John Conley Offline

Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 8333
Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
Charles was our tour guide. Zig was making French Horns, I think there is a shot of him there.

My pal Stew saw 2 horns for Sale in Barstow. We were there the previous day. The woman in the small music store/training place wanted $250 firm. One was a French Besson C trumpet with 3 lead pipes, shiny new, not a dent or scratch. Zig had made that one himself. I bet it's worth 2,000 bucks. I don't know if it's sold yet, what a steal. Worth the 2 hour drive. Stew has bought 33 instruments there to date. I brought back a fantastic English made Besson silver matte finish in fantastic condition he sold me for $800 bucks. (Because I'm his buddy)!
John Conley
Musica est vita

#199309 - 03/27/13 08:24 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: John Conley]
furry Offline

Registered: 06/28/06
Posts: 5508
Loc: Scottish Highlands
Good to hear from you John

Whenever I have a problem, I just sing, Then I realize my voice is worse than my problem.

#199310 - 03/27/13 09:31 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: furry]
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Registered: 05/29/00
Posts: 38502
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia USA
Good to hear from you, John. PeterG was asking if any of us had heard anything about your well-being awhile back.

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#199311 - 03/27/13 10:18 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: Mac]
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Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 7204
Nice to have you back for sure.
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#199312 - 03/27/13 10:23 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: silvertones]
Danny C. Offline

Registered: 03/18/04
Posts: 6463
Loc: South Louisiana
Glad you are back and I too enjoyed your pictorial of that horn factory.

Danny C.

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#199313 - 03/27/13 10:36 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: Danny C.]
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Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 3898
Loc: Kennesaw (Atlanta) GA
Thank you for checking in, John. How are you doing overall? We all hope you're around for a long time yet.

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#199314 - 03/27/13 01:52 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Still Around [Re: Ryszard]
ZeroZero Offline

Registered: 07/15/07
Posts: 1632
Loc: Bynar
John - I just wish you well
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