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#270554 - 11/26/14 06:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How does woodshed work? [Re: Noel96]
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Loc: Balmer, Merlan, USA

Tom: The idea behind 'woodshedding' in practice and in BIAB is to start way (too) slow and gradually build up to the desired (faster) tempo. As an example, let's say I want to be able to play "Unit 7" at 240 bpm. I'd open the tune in BIAB, change the tempo from whatever it currently is set at to one that is slower than I can currently play accurately. Let's say that's 160 bpm. I then go into the practice module, hit woodshed, change the increment to 10 (or 5 if I'm having lots of trouble) and the ending increase to 80. 160 bpm plus 80 bpm = 240 bpm. I then go back to the notation page and highlight the first chorus and hit f10 (repeat section). (BTW, I'm doing this all from memory on a computer than doesn't have BIAB, so please forgive me if I've made mistakes.)BIAB will then start playing that section, in this case the first chorus, at 160 bpm. When BIAB finishes the first chorus @ 160bpm, it immediately starts over on bar 1 @ 170 bpm, if I had chosen to increase by 10 bpm each iteration. This cycle continues until the tempo reaches 240 bpm, at which time the process repeats depending on how you have configured the woodshed algorithm: go up then back to start, or go up and then back down to start.

When doing this, I frequently add an intro of 4 bars to the song, just so I have four measures to hear the beat, as the woodshedding algorithm doesn't have a count-off. Adding 4 measures in the new, faster tempo helps get me into the rhythm.

Again, I apologize for any memory lapses in my description, but I hope this helps you in using the woodshedding part of practice.


#270555 - 11/26/14 06:44 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How does woodshed work? [Re: Tom Dentist]
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Very good detailed description by Bob. That's exactly how to use this.

Tom, don't forget Noel's questions if you still need help.
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#270611 - 11/26/14 01:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How does woodshed work? [Re: Tom Dentist]
Tom Dentist Offline

Registered: 12/15/13
Posts: 49
Thanks Wombat, that is my idea also, start slow and build up to normal tempo in increments.

I see no place where the number of increments can be set, or the amount of increase per increment . The two numbers you can specify are:

1. "Woodshed tempo by (default = 0 BPM) . . . "
2. "Maximum total tempo . . "

I don't see how that determines

1. Start tempo
2. number of increments
3. increase per increment

. . . or if it's even supposed to. Apparently "to woodshed" doesn't have a settled meaning, so perhaps the reason I can't do what I want is that that wasn't the intended purpose. Actually I didn't know it was a verb.

#270683 - 11/26/14 09:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How does woodshed work? [Re: Tom Dentist]
Noel96 Offline

Registered: 10/31/08
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Loc: Australia

Tell me what you want and I'll see if I can give you the information you need.

Let me know ...

1. your desired start tempo

2. what tempo you'd like the playback to finish at

3. how many beats per minute you'd like to increase playback each time you go through the song


#270756 - 11/27/14 06:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How does woodshed work? [Re: Tom Dentist]
jazzwombat Offline

Registered: 12/11/07
Posts: 457
Loc: Balmer, Merlan, USA
Originally Posted By: Tom Dentist

I see no place where the number of increments can be set, or the amount of increase per increment .

"To woodshed" can be thought of as a synonym for "to increase" in this case.

Let's run through an example. I want to go through a song starting at a tempo of 100 bpm, ending at 200 bpm, with 10 increments of 10 bpm increases. Here's how:

1. In the chord (main BIAB) window, adjust the tempo to your starting tempo of 100 bpm.
2. In the woodshed window (click "practice" on the upper bar, and then 'woodshed'), adjust the "Woodshed tempo by" value to 10.
3. For the moment, ignore the "mode"; however, note that to the right of the 'mode' line BIAB says "100 is the Current Tempo"
4. In the Maximum Total Tempo window, put in a value of 100. Note that to the right of this value BIAB says "200 will be the maximum tempo.

Under these inputs, BIAB will say:
Current tempo is 100. It will increase by 10 each loop, to a maximum tempo of 200. When it reaches the Max tempo, it will RESET to the original tempo... (etc).

As an exercise, why not try this and report back on what you see and hear. These replies will help us help you all the more.


Edited by jazzwombat (11/28/14 03:40 PM)
Edit Reason: minor corrections

#273420 - 12/08/14 06:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How does woodshed work? [Re: Tom Dentist]
Tom Dentist Offline

Registered: 12/15/13
Posts: 49
Thanks, Wombat. I never would have figured out the jargon on my own.

"Total Tempo" means the total of the increments plus the original tempo as lowered to make room for the increments. "Woodshed" is a verb meaning "Increase tempo by increment of X". So this would appear to be the procedure:

1. Decide ending tempo.
2. Decide beginning tempo.
3. Subtract beginning tempo from ending tempo.
4. Decide what the increment of increase in tempo will be.
5. Hope the arithmetic came out right. Helps to use a computer program. You must woodshed in the correct increments the correct number of times to reach the total tempo.

For example, if you want to start at 100 bpm and reach 200 bpm in 3 stages . . .

200 - 100 = 100
100/3 = 33.33

Starting tempo = 100
Total Temp = 200
"Woodshed by" 33.33

Also remember to make a note somewhere of what the original tempo was before you changed it in order to "woodshed" in the word's other sense, i.e. to practice, otherwise, the audio track will be out of tempo.

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