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#277983 - 01/03/15 01:01 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: bobcflatpicker]
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When I'm playing the banjo and want to keep the volume down, one of those spring loaded wooden clothes pins clipped on each end of the bridge mutes the hell out of it.
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#277986 - 01/03/15 01:06 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: Joe V]
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Originally Posted By: Joe V
No tricks to practicing at a lower volume ? How about a cloth on the skin, or something like that.

Also - anything in particular to look for when evaluating a used, high-quality intrument like the Sierra ?

for an open back you can stuff an old flannel shirt inside it! I play might softly all the time cause I too have folks around who are not the biggest banjo fans around!

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#278025 - 01/03/15 04:35 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: Joe V]
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Joe,

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But finally my concrete question - when you buy a Deering "good time" banjo (list ~$400) vs. say a "Sierra" (list ~2000) - what exactly are you paying the extra for ?

Is it the parts themselves where materials are more expensive a big part of it, or is there substantially more workmanship involved and that's where the extra $$$ goes ?


For any stringed instrument, the difference between a beginner model and professional model lies in a whole host of things. The primary ones are the quality of the workmanship, the quality of the components, the sound, the feel and playability.

Each of those things can be broken down into a list of minute details, most of which can only be discerned by a skilled player. If you never make it above beginner or intermediate skill level, you won’t be able to appreciate all the differences between a high quality entry level instrument and a professional grade instrument. Just don't buy a cheap instrumenet if you actually want to learn to play it.

If you google “banjo mute” you’ll see there are dozens of varieties. I’ve used socks, tee shirts, dish rags, etc. Whatever you use, a muted banjo sounds like a muted banjo. It’s not just quieter, it loses the character of the instrument.

Open back banjos are quieter, more mellow sounding and much lighter. Resonator banjos are louder, brighter and much heavier.

Only you can decide what you want and how much you want to spend. There’s no advice from anyone else that will answer either of those questions.


Edited by bobcflatpicker (01/03/15 05:14 PM)
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#278050 - 01/03/15 07:55 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: bobcflatpicker]
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Everything Deering makes is good quality in every respect. If you can get your hands on a Goodtime and a more expensive model you would quickly see where they were able to keep the price low. The economies used in the Goodtime do not compromise sound, playability or durability.

The Sierra is an excellent instrument for bluegrass. I have found it too strident for the vocal accompaniment and melodic soloing that I do.


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#278120 - 01/04/15 07:57 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: flatfoot]
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I was almost ready to pull the trigger, withdrew the chase from the bank - then my wife reminded me of the many instruments I have recently purchased that I haven't played yet...(roland drums, a nice mandolin)...and I felt guilty shelling out a grand plus on another that will probably go largely unplayed for many years.

Anyone know a good psychologist ? I think she may be on to something.

...and then proceeded to look at the less expensive goodtime models.

Sometimes I like to tell her about the cost of the instruments I'm buying because I feel our finances are collectively shared, and other times, I think it better to keep it a secret. But I can't deny her accuracy in pointing out the many unplayed instruments I own lol

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#278181 - 01/04/15 04:22 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: Joe V]
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Joe,

You mentioned that you'd gotten a nice mandolin. What did you get?
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#278186 - 01/04/15 05:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: Joe V]
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Originally Posted By: Joe V
I was almost ready to pull the trigger, withdrew the chase from the bank - then my wife reminded me of the many instruments I have recently purchased that I haven't played yet...

Sometimes I like to tell her about the cost of the instruments I'm buying because I feel our finances are collectively shared, and other times, I think it better to keep it a secret. But I can't deny her accuracy in pointing out the many unplayed instruments I own lol


that's the part in the conversation where you walk her to her closet and point out how many expensive shoes and outfits are there that haven't been worn in years. Then without a word you may as well move your pillow and blanket to the couch.

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#278461 - 01/06/15 02:37 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: Joe V]
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I am now the proud owner of a Deering Sierra (I couldn't resist - I knew if I didn't buy it now, it would still be an eventual idea that would materialize as a bucket list item - and I ain't gettin' any younger !)

I'm just going to rationalize it as 'part of the basement studio - so my musician visitors don't have to carry their instruments over'...but in fact, I rarely if ever have musician visitors, and they NEVER play the banjo or mandolin. I've been lucky to have a few drummer friends that occasionally visit.

Bob, my mandolin is an Eastman MD614 - another Craigslist present I purchase 1 or 2 years ago (years going so fast now !)

Usually, an newly purchase instrument gets me to play the PREVIOUSLY purchased unplayed instrument - so now that I purchased the banjo, will probably dive into the mandolin.

Actually, I'm looking for someone to barter teaching time with - I am an advanced student of flamenco guitar, somewhat of a computer techie, and can probably offer the right person a lot of beneficial guitar or tech instruction. Hoping to find someone looking to brush up their skills in one of these areas that is willing to barter my teaching time for theirs on the mandolin, banjo, or bass. I will make this a separate post - I think it warrants such.

Thanks again to all of you for your help and advice in this purchase decision I made.

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#278466 - 01/06/15 02:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Question about price of Deering Banjos - and what 'more' you get with the Sierra vs the Goodtime [Re: Joe V]
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Congrats Joe. I hope you enjoy sleeping on the couch for a few days.

Is the Sierra the open back or resonator version?

The Eastman MD614 looks like a great mandolin. I've never played one but it appears to be a very good one.


Edited by bobcflatpicker (01/06/15 03:01 PM)
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