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#152364 - 03/03/12 04:17 PM
Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA
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First of all out of the lines, but am using ~1116:Fiddle, Background CountryBoogie SW 110 for Melody. Worked out a very nice melody with it about 2 weeks ago.
Enough!
Found out when using RT that generation includes all of the song, including intro. Do not want to lose this melody, so froze all tracks but Soloist. Found a good fit with 1711 Brents WesternSwing, Bluesy.
I add intro screen. Used pop intro to add and the entire melody shifted up 4 measures filling the intro. Can use magic F5 to mute it, but 1/2 of the A section is gone, shifted into the Intro area.
Unfroze all the tracks, added intro. Froze again. The same thing happened.
What am I doing wrong?
After post had this idea. Add the intro, copy those 4 measures. Reload song, insert 4 measures, then pasted the intro. *&^%$# same thing happened, the melody shifted up 4 bars...
2nd try. Load good song, inserted 4 blank measures, played the song. Again melody shifted up to fill the 4 measures.
Thank you
Edited by seeker (03/03/12 04:30 PM)
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#152366 - 03/05/12 11:25 AM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: Noel96]
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA
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Noel,
I've spent many hours working on this one song, its a good song.
Also did some amount of work with RB.
Will give this a whirl when "Ole" body gets better. Been under the weather a bit.
Thank you.
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#152368 - 03/05/12 02:47 PM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: jazzmandan]
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Registered: 12/06/05
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"Misery Loves Comapany"
Thank you jazzmandan
Its a very weird way this happens. Think I have a work around, but my get-along has a hitch in it.
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#152369 - 03/05/12 05:11 PM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: seeker]
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Registered: 06/07/05
Posts: 4539
Loc: Redondo Beach, Ca.
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I'm not at home right now but I think you can save the melody track as a wav to it's own file. Then nuke the that track in Biab and import the wav file back onto the audio track. When you do that I believe you can specify how many bars you want it offset by so you can line it up. Note it's no longer a Real Track, now it's simply another wav file.
Working with melodies in Biab is very clunky sometimes. I agree with you I've been bitten by this problem as well. This is why I've gotten into the habit of not creating the melody in Biab until I'm positive the song arrangement is finished precisely because of this problem with the melody. I use Real Band so much now I sometimes forget these little Biab things. The thing is now they've added so many neat RB type features to Biab 2012 the lines are getting blurred.
Bob
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#152370 - 03/10/12 10:45 PM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: jazzmammal]
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA
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Hello folks,
I have completed a "Partial" success.
I save the original completed(without intro) as .mgu
Newed the screen Change the key to match the song. Added intro with generator. Placed song end at bar 5. deleted contents of bar 5.
Imported .mgu file starting at bar 5.
Played the song.. Intro sound great and the original melody is still intact from the import.
One glich which can be fixed is 3 chorus's were not imported, only one.
The song does play nicely in its entirety but only intro, one chorus and ending.
I will unfold the original song without the intro and save in the way.
Then load intro, import unfolded completed song.
This should work just fine.
Actually once this is identified the work around will be pretty quick.
Tired now, but will work on its completion soon.
This is a case where ability to go back and edit the start of the thread to Resolved would be nice.
Later
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#152371 - 03/11/12 05:59 AM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: seeker]
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Registered: 05/29/00
Posts: 35232
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia USA
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Under the Melody menu, "Edit" -- there is a command, "Copy Melody to All Choruses".
There is also another, "Kill Melody in Middle Choruses" -- handy for creating the typical song structure where the Melody is played once at the beginning, Soloing is done over the Middle Choruses and the Melody is again played on the last chorus.
--Mac
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#152372 - 03/11/12 08:09 AM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: Mac]
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Registered: 12/06/05
Posts: 1619
Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA
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Mac, Thanks for that tip. I unfolded the song after the posting last night could not wait. And it was all melody. Hence you Quote:
"Kill Melody in Middle Choruses"
should resolve that.
Getting close, but social items, like taking my wife places this morning are a "Most required" thing to do.
Was really happy to find out how to create the intro standalone, then import the intact body of the song.
Whodda thunk that would work. BTW, you have to have the Intro residing on the page first. Then the .mgu song import.
I tried loading the song, inserting bars, then importing the intro. Then the regeneration simply slid the whole melody over the intro again.
Thanks and good morning to you Sir.
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#152374 - 03/11/12 12:41 PM
Re: Addition of intro is shifting "Melody".
[Re: Shastastan]
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I'm with jazzmammal on this one. The most important thing for me is to get the song structure set first in BIAB, before I add melody and harmony and tag melody etc.
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