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#393524 - 01/31/17 10:52 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: BlueAttitude]
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#393555 - 01/31/17 01:48 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Carlson, being totally naive about payola, thinking it was foot powder smile


And he was running around the office saying "I got a monkey on my foot!"
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#393600 - 01/31/17 06:01 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Absolutely one of the best comedy television shows of all time. Great writing and a wonderful cast.

I really don't want to highjack the thread but ... who remembers the Thanksgiving show with newsman Les Nessman exclaiming, "I thought turkeys can fly" after shoving live turkeys out of a helicopter for a Thanksgiving turkey giveaway.
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#393765 - 02/01/17 02:01 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
I really don't want to highjack the thread but ... who remembers the Thanksgiving show with newsman Les Nessman exclaiming, "I thought turkeys can fly" after shoving live turkeys out of a helicopter for a Thanksgiving turkey giveaway.


Just rewatched it:



Actually, that was Mr. Carlson. As the recipient of the covented "Buckeye Newshawk Award", "Silver Sow Award" and the "Copper Cob Award" for excellence in farm reporting, hopefully Les would know that turkeys can't fly... But competence has never been his forte, either.

Oh, Internet... you put so much trivia at my fingertips. laugh

Now back to our regularly scheduled topic of ever-diminishing songwriter royalties.
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#393802 - 02/01/17 06:20 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
who remembers the Thanksgiving show with newsman Les Nessman exclaiming, "I thought turkeys can fly".


Not to call you out or be a jerk, but Carlson said that. "As god is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

Edited: I just saw that someone below posted the clip. That episode was classic. "The Pinedale Shopping Mall was BOMBED today..." Johnny Fever was the perfect stereotype of the hipster DJ of those years.

They did a really good job when the people died at The Who concert too. Very strong writing on that episode to bring home to point of how senseless it is that people got trampled, as if being closer to the stage allows you to hear better.


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#393809 - 02/01/17 06:38 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: floyd jane]
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Eddie and David,

I don't mind being wrong in this case as otherwise David may not have posted the video clip to "refresh" my memory. blush

Some people may not have seen the show or video before so hopefully this discussion will help the show gain new fans.
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#394282 - 02/04/17 11:38 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: floyd jane]
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If the analysis I read of Spotify's financial report is correct, at the Spotify rate of about $0.00058 per spin, a songwriter who retains all publishing rights to his/her song would need 288,104,634.15 spins to earn the reported average salary of a Spotify employee (around $160,000).

Edit: $168,747 average salary


Edited by Matt Finley (02/04/17 07:42 PM)
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#394721 - 02/06/17 06:12 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: floyd jane]
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Hello, Mr. Jane...

So, based on what I read in your very informative post, it would seem that songwriters who publish their own songs have a bit more potential to profit from their compositions. Would that be correct?

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#394779 - 02/07/17 05:00 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: bluage]
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Originally Posted By: bluage
Hello, Mr. Jane...

So, based on what I read in your very informative post, it would seem that songwriters who publish their own songs have a bit more potential to profit from their compositions. Would that be correct?

LOREN (a.k.a. "bluage")


Yes. Publisher's share is 50% of the deal and writer's share is the other 50%.

However, if you have to have the connections, and are willing to work as hard as a publisher works for you, by plugging your songs to the end users, whether they are artists or production companies, then yes, you can make the full 100%.

Many artists as they get bigger and gain "star power", eventually set up their own publishing companies. They then either become publishers of their own material out right or split the publishing with another publisher who probably does most of the work. It's an easy way for a big artist to not only get the writer's share (split between the writers on a given song) but also to pick up a percentage of the publisher's share as well which is generally a 50/50 split between the 2 publishing companies.

Essentially, anyone who self posts their music to i-tunes or youtube is self publishing without the connections of an established publishing company, and we all know how little money that makes for you.

Owning a small percentage of a large amount certainly beats owning 100% of nothing.
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#394815 - 02/07/17 07:31 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: bluage]
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Yes, exactly as Herb described. I get two checks from BMI for example: one as composer, one as publisher.
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#395244 - 02/09/17 09:27 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Songwriter Royalties - the reality... [Re: Matt Finley]
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Well, as my father once said to me, "Son, if you're going to compose music, do it because you enjoy composing music. Then, the money will come..."

Still waitin' to see if that's true! smirk

Actually, I agreed with him, and would believe it even if he had never told me that. I have never, ever, sat down purposely, and with focused deliberation, to compose a song that I imagined would be appealing enough to a mass audience to cause them to want to buy it. How would one even attempt such a thing? Not to mention the fact that I've read story, after story, after story, about musicians who composed something in a casual manner without any expectation of profiting from it...and then, all of a sudden, they had a "hit" on their hands. On the flip side, the songs they wrote that they actually believed could be "hits", never went anywhere.

Trumpeter Lee Morgan's surprise "hit" composition, "The Sidewinder," was a "happy accident." Here's the Wikipedia information:

"According to drummer Billy Hart, Morgan said he had recorded "The Sidewinder" as filler for the album, and was bemused that it had turned into his biggest hit."

Go figure! What does it mean? I think my father got it right...

My personal pipe dream would be to compose a straight-ahead jazz tune that "went viral." It's been years, maybe decades, even, since I heard of a straight-ahead jazz instrumental, or song, that "climbed the charts." When was the last one? Dave Brubeck's and Paul Desmond's "Take Five" in 1959? Eddie Harris' "Exodus" in 1961? Antonio Carlos Jobim's and Vinicius de Moraes' "The Girl From Ipanema" in 1965?

Anyway, I just think it would be cool to walk down the street and hear people snapping their fingers and "be-bop-sha-boppin'" to the tune of a nice instrumental jazz tune, or crooning the lyrics of a melodious jazz ballad...

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