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Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm #402207 03/23/17 06:54 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 8 Massachusetts, USA DanT OP Newbie
OP DanT Newbie Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 8 Massachusetts, USA	I'm entering a C#m chord for a song in the key of A (3 sharps), and it displays as Dbm. Is there any way to make it display the sharp (in key) chord name rather than the flat (out of key) name? Just to forestall the obvious response: I realize that C# and Db are the same note. But since Key of A is written as 3 sharps, the scale would normally be considered to contain C# rather than Db. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_major I tried looking in the Preferences dialog and couldn't find anything that seemed relevant. I tried several searches of the forum, and other google searches, and didn't see any hits that seemed to apply.

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402211 03/23/17 07:09 AM Beginners Forum
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	Dan - Which version of BIAB are you using? John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm jford #402227 03/23/17 08:29 AM Beginners Forum
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OP DanT Newbie Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 8 Massachusetts, USA	Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh Version 2016 (143)

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402231 03/23/17 08:35 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	I'll take a look tonight. I know there have been enharmonic display problems in the past, but not usually related to C# in the key of A. I know your song doesn't require it, but what happens if you try C# instead of C#m? Does it accept that, or is it also displayed as Db? But FYI, even though they are enharmonically equivalent, BIAB will not display B#, E#, Cb, or Fb. They may be called for because of the key signature, but BIAB will always display a C, F, B, or E, regardless of key signature. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402233 03/23/17 08:43 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,940 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,940 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Dan, I would like to rule out the obvious. You said the song is in the key of A. But did you first set the key signature to A in BIAB? It is the key signature of BIAB that determines which enharmonic pitch is displayed, among other decisions. Many times users will key in a song from a fakebook but don't set the key signature in BIAB first, leaving the default of C. Just checking... BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402234 03/23/17 09:04 AM Beginners Forum
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	Good point, Matt. Yep, need to explicitly set the key signature first. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm jford #402236 03/23/17 09:05 AM Beginners Forum
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OP DanT Newbie Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 8 Massachusetts, USA	Actually, I do have a couple C#'s in the song, and they also display as Db. Screenshot here: https://dantappanmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-23-at-3.03.28-PM.png

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402237 03/23/17 09:09 AM Beginners Forum
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	That's definitely wrong. I wonder what F#m displays as. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402238 03/23/17 09:11 AM Beginners Forum
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,954 Australia	Dan, The latest update for BIAB (Mac) 2016 is 152. It would pay to download and install that to see if the issue persists. http://www.pgmusic.com/support_macintoshupdates.htm Regards, Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm jford #402277 03/23/17 12:13 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,466 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: jford That's definitely wrong. I wonder what F#m displays as. There are a couple of F#m's in the chord sheet (bars 11,12,45,46), and they (apparently) display correctly. Yes, it is very strange. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402279 03/23/17 12:19 PM Beginners Forum
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	You're right, Trevor; I was looking at it on my phone, so missed it. Interesting conundrum, since the song key is set correctly. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm Noel96 #402282 03/23/17 12:46 PM Beginners Forum
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OP DanT Newbie Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 8 Massachusetts, USA	Thanks for the info about the update. I wasn't aware of it. Unfortunately, after I installed the update the symptom didn't change.

Re: Help with chord display: C#m displays as Dbm DanT #402284 03/23/17 12:49 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,940 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,940 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Call Support. Good luck. Perhaps it will be fixed in version 2017 if not sooner. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

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