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#447716 - 12/28/17 03:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Hey dr. Gannon Sonar?
Westside Steve Offline
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As everyone probably knows Gibson, who is having all sorts of troubles, has a banded Cakewalk sonar a Daw that many of us use in love. I have no idea what kind of arrangements they would want to sell but it would seem an excellent fit to the PG music stable of programs.
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Edited by Westside Steve (12/28/17 03:09 PM)
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#447730 - 12/28/17 05:25 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Westside Steve]
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Probably could also pick it up for a song grin grin grin
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#447731 - 12/28/17 05:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Westside Steve]
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Cakewalk's Music Creator consumer DAW has been available on the PG Music website for a long time. In fact, Music Creator 7 is still offered +++ HERE +++ .

The boxed highlight on the About web page convinces me PG Music was more interested in the TTS-1 software based sound module than the actual DAW. Perhaps it would be easier and less expensive to acquire just the TTS-1.

NAMM 2018 is less than a month away. If PG Music has a booth or visits again this year there might be some opportunities for discussion.
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#447741 - 12/28/17 06:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Would be nice. Lately (really since Gibsons take over and subsequent apparent lack of interest in Sonar) I have been spending more time and money on BB but still use Sonar to finish my tracks. I do find Sonar much easier to use than RealBand but then again I have spent considerably more time and study on Sonar. There are a number of books out on all aspects of Sonar and included plugins.

I think Sonar would be an excellent addition to the PG stable.

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#447750 - 12/28/17 07:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Teunis]
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Getting Sonar may be Ok BUT are you willing to pay $300-$400 for a DAW? That is what good DAWs like Sonar, Cubase, Studio One, etc are going for.

I would much rather PGMusic keep improving BiaB, including going to 64 bit and opening up all 16 MIDI channels. YMMV
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#447753 - 12/28/17 07:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: MarioD]
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I would have much more invested in Sonar than $400 by the time one includes a few plugins say Melodyne Editor, TH3 and TH2, Addictive Keys, Addictive Drums to mention a few. Then add some compressors, the added features in the Sonar ProChannel you come over $1000 easy. That is why I had to limit what I maintain since retiring.

The good thing is some of the plugins I can use in BB. But then again using RealTracks there is much less use for them.

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#447825 - 12/29/17 08:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Westside Steve]
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If I were a betting man (I'm not), I would bet that Gibson would rather let Sonar (and the other Cakewalk products) die on the vine than let it go to someone else "for a song". And if your programmers are not familiar with the code, well, that's a problem.

I also suspect that as long as the Cakewalk site is still open for authentication, they're not going to let it go unless it's a package deal to transfer the whole shebang.

But it would be nice if they could get their hands on the TTS-1

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#447853 - 12/29/17 11:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Westside Steve]
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First of all if Gibson isn't willing to deal then that's that. And it doesn't matter what Cubase sells for this would be part of band-in-a-box. They were already selling sonar Platinum with lifetime updates for a hundred bucks or something . A top-notch digital audio workstation.. Sonar and RealTracs are a symbiotic match made in heaven. I don't know how costly the I T end would be but I can't imagine that somebody in Boston isn't looking for a job and it could be done online pretty easily.
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#448570 - 01/02/18 04:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Hey dr. Gannon Sonar? [Re: Westside Steve]
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My wish would be for PG simply to get a licence to use Sonar Home Studio, I got it free in computer music magazine, seems a very capable DAW, and it does come with the TTS-1.

Then if PG could somehow manage to get realtrack/realdrum regeneration done within it, that would be a great bonus.

Realband is ok and is what it is, but come on, who in this day and age wants a DAW without basic editing tools, such as split, mute part of track, and the mixer GUI is terrible so much wasted space on that screen.



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