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#447876 - 12/29/17 01:03 PM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again?
Bob Calver Offline
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Running PT 2017 on windows 10 with Soundblaster Audigy ZS Platinum. Using the Creative ASIO drivers all was well until a day or so ago. Plugged my midi keyboard in via USB to record a midi piano part and got bad latency. Checked and drivers had reverted to MME. Don't know why. Changed to ASIO as normal and sound was distorted almost like an old fashioned fuzz box. Still got it done and later plugged in keyboard again. Sounded OK.

Day later tried to play a seq file with midi and audio. Changed the sample and bit depth as I am buying a new usb audio interface. Asked if I wanted to resample said yes and got several progress boxes in quick succession and the sound went echoey and fuzz box and PT became unresponsive. shut PT with Task Manager. Files played fine when I selected MME but symptoms reoccurred every time I selected ASIO which I must have tried five or six times. Tried everything - switched off all recording sources not being used. Failed to get a normal sound. Uninstalled and reinstalled PT no change although I had to reinstall the ASIO driver etc from scratch.

Left it for three hours, tried again and got the same message 'PT crashed etc.......' so did it all again and it now works. Audio had reverted to 16 bit 44.1 using the resampler as the closest diver setting is 16 bit 48.

Incidentally BIAB 2018 worked fine all the time with the same ASIO drivers.

If you've got this far thank you. Any suggestions? Not sure how long PT will remain working.

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#447889 - 12/29/17 01:48 PM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: Bob Calver]
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Bob,

I have an Audigy too and the ASIO drivers for my Platinum Pro external card weren't designed for Windows 10. It's because of that that I stayed with Win 7.

There is also a problem with my particlular Audigy driver in that it does not work comfortably in environments where RAM is greater than 4 GB (I have 16 GB). Have a look at the link below. I followed the instructions on this link and found that it made a difference.

http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/workaround-for-audigy-2-zs-recording-problems-on-windows-7-64-bit

While the article is specific to Win 7, I daresay it could have implications for Win 10 and your Audigy card.

Regards,
Noel


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#447988 - 12/30/17 01:27 AM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: Noel96]
Bob Calver Offline
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thanks nice to know I'm not alone - as my problem seems to be confined to PT might just ry to use me new audio interface with RealBand which will pick up my PT and BIAB files. I've just got RB as part of BIAB 2018 and was delighted to find its a cross between PT and BIAB which is just what I need. Up until now I've created tracks in BIAB and edited ad recorded in PT.

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#447991 - 12/30/17 01:37 AM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: Bob Calver]
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Excellent.

I find Realband very useful in building backing tracks. It's well worth taking the time to learn.

All the best with the journey!

Noel
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#448641 - 01/02/18 11:42 AM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: Noel96]
Bob Calver Offline
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PT is still working with the Creative ASIO drivers so I'm crossing my fingers

as I will be doing new recordings in BIAB and RealBAnd I think i'll stick to 16 bit 44.1

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#448680 - 01/02/18 04:37 PM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: Bob Calver]
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Just to be clear; the 16/44 is a BiaB issue.
RB works with any system supported format I've thrown at it.

If you need existing BiaB audio files/tracks, RB will ask to convert them to whatever bit rate you have set in Prefs when you open or import them. At least it always has here.

In my experience, RB can be set to a lot of different bit rates and still generate and such. It knows the math.
It's much more of a rule for BB than RB.
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#448737 - 01/03/18 02:36 AM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: rharv]
Bob Calver Offline
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so if I am making recordings using RB (or PT) will I really notice a difference if i record at 24bit 4800? any advice from the more experienced?

I'm using a new condenser mic to get better quality than the old dynamic one but as I'll eventually be making cds will the higher quality recording translate to better cds when the fileis resampled back to 16bit 44.1?

My usb audio interface will support almost any bit depth and sample rate. I just need some advice as to whether the experts out there thinks it's really worth recording at anything other than 16 bit 44.1.

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#448832 - 01/03/18 10:15 AM [PowerTracks Pro Audio] Re: wy do my asio drivers stop working and then work again? [Re: Bob Calver]
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I think it's worth it, but that's up to you.
There is a file size trade off to be considered.

As an experiment I introduced a new DAW into an ongoing project (writing material for new CD).
The drummer noticed and asked; "Is it me, or does the raw audio actually sound better?"
Hint: at the same time I had switched the project from 16 bit to 24 bit .. he noticed.

So you might notice a difference, but the real reason is more headroom, lower noise floor and more accuracy. Once the audio becomes 1's and 0's, this helps down the line with mixing etc.

The old standard explanation -
http://tweakheadz.com/16-bit-vs-24-bit-audio/

Try it, see what you think.
https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-do-i-really-need-24-bit-recording
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