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Any one know the difference? Why is this new offering not just Xtra style Pak 12?
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Reading the description, it appears that this XPro product works with BIAB Pro version (the starter version) or anything greater. That is unlike the Xtra Styles, which require the RealTracks of the UltraPak version (or audiophile).
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mmm... I wonder have they drawn previous styles from other Xtra Paks or if they are going to be added to future Paks. Seems a strange beast which just seems to muddy the waters.
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Spoiler alert!!!!
I purchased and it was a MAC version download - not Windows which I need! Already messaged support! As I recall, there was no option to choose the OS.
Careful with your purchase!
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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I trust Mike will get it taken care of. The Mac 2021 version was just released and there are probably some tweaks needed in Sales.
As to the XPro styles, perhaps I wasn't clear. They cannot be drawn from the other Xtra Styles because the Xtra Styles require that the user has the UltraPak or audiophile version. As I understand it, the need arose because some people who had the Pro version complained about buying the Xtra Styles when they had not read the requirements. The Xtra Styles do not work with just the Pro version. Now PG Music has released a pak of styles that does work with any version.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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Got it, Matt. Thanks for the info. Listened to the demos and they sounded great to me! Had to have, but... well, I am sure Sales or Support will figure it out. They are good at these things.
Appreciate your input!
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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Thanks Matt
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Is the XPro-Pak also worthwhile for owners of the Ultrapak? Does it contain completely new styles that were not already similarly contained in other Stylepaks? The style names are all new, so it's difficult to compare them to existing styles.
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The website seems to be the issue. The link listed takes you to the Mac OS version. No way to select Windows version. I had the same problem - when I went to pay it said OS Mac. I bailed out. Did a lot of searching and found this page: Windows XPro Style version ...Deb
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I just went through not using your link, Deb, and the checkout said Windows version. But I've asked the developers to verify it's all working correctly.
I also asked them for an explanation whether the Xpro styles offer anything we don't have in the 11 Xtra Styles Paks. Stand by.
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I would need a definite answer from someone at PGMUSIC, not from a fellow member who does not work there or is associated with them.:
Are the styles contained in the XPRo package for Windows or MAC 100% new styles that have NOT been previously released in XTRA PAKS 1-11?
I certainly would not like it if I purchased the new styles only to find out they have already been released under different names under packs 1-11.
Please chime in here PGMUSIC as I am sure that many other users have the same question.
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See Matt Finley's answer, it's very clear. Unpublished FOR the basic version. Always appreciable for newbies. PG would tell you the same thing. So they use the RTs of the Pro version (Basic version) to show the magic they can do.
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Spoiler alert!!!!
I purchased and it was a MAC version download - not Windows which I need! Already messaged support! As I recall, there was no option to choose the OS.
Careful with your purchase! I have experienced the same. "Shopping Cart" says OS MAC
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For the XPro Styles showing as Mac instead of Windows, I just checked and this link appears to show the correct windows version once added to the cart: https://www.pgmusic.com/xpro.php?os=win Please let us know via live chat or sales@pgmusic.com if there are any further ordering issues. There were many customers with the Pro PAK and MegaPAK who have been requesting additional Styles PAKs that are compatible for them, since the Xtra Styles PAKs require the UltraPAk and higher. The XPro PAK is compatible for customers with these Band-in-a-Box PAKs. Since the UltraPAK and higher are larger, the XPro PAK is compatible with these PAKs as well.
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Thank you Chantelle. That confirms my speculation above.
The remaining question is, if someone does have the UltraPak or higher, and they had already bought the 11 Xtra Styles Paks, would they get anything new in the Xpro Pak?
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For the XPro Styles showing as Mac instead of Windows, I just checked and this link appears to show the correct windows version once added to the cart: https://www.pgmusic.com/xpro.php?os=win Please let us know via live chat or sales@pgmusic.com if there are any further ordering issues. There were many customers with the Pro PAK and MegaPAK who have been requesting additional Styles PAKs that are compatible for them, since the Xtra Styles PAKs require the UltraPAk and higher. The XPro PAK is compatible for customers with these Band-in-a-Box PAKs. Since the UltraPAK and higher are larger, the XPro PAK is compatible with these PAKs as well. I already sent an email to Sales, asking for a Windows download link. I paid for the MAC version, which is useless to me. Thanks!
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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The XPro styles Pak 1 has 100 unique RealStyles, not found on any Xtra styles set or elsewhere. Since it uses RealTracks from 2021 Pro version, it works with Pro or better, which includes Pro, Mega, Ultra, Audiophile.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Thank You Peter for a definite answer on this. Therefore, since I have the UltraPak for 2021 and all 11 XTRA Styles packs already, when I purchase the XPRo pack, I will get getting all new, never before seen styles.
The difference on the XPRo package is that anyone who has purchased any BIAB package for 2021 will be able to use these 100 new styles.
That clears it up perfectly for me.
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BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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Thanx Peter for clearing that up.
Do these new pro styles have MIDI transcripts attached so those of use who prefer MIDI can use them?
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
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