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MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION-BUG CONFIRMED #235448 01/16/14 08:41 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK sixchannel OP Veteran
OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	BUG CONFIRMED BY PG SUPPORT HI I have loaded a style - _CAIRPGS.STY if it matters. I want to sub the piano. At the moment it is a midi SuperTrack 2056 and I want an RT 1533. When I do the volume of that track goes off the scale and I have to reduce it to just 10 or 15 points just to make it anything like useable!! - see pic - What am I doing wrong and how can I correct it please? Thanks Ian Last edited by sixchannel; 01/18/14 03:24 AM. Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235480 01/16/14 01:37 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 204 L Leon Carpenter Apprentice
Leon Carpenter Apprentice L Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 204	To: ,sixchannel, Since no one has responded, I did the test and here are my findings: DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME I had: All Of My Tomorrows playing in the CAIRPGS.style . It is showing normal for me anyway. peaks of three yellow bars on my mixer. The piano track is registering - one bar less than yellow. The default setting is 90 thru out on the BB mixer. Nothing is frozen. I changed the piano to the suggested 2056 RT. In Bar Setting, I first lowered the piano volume to -90. I pushed regenerate, an my QSC K12's nearly jumped off their stands. WoW. I hope I didn't ruin them. Help needed here. Warnings maybe?------Leon

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION Leon Carpenter #235490 01/16/14 02:13 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Hi Leon thats the baby!! Nearly killed my Monitors - and ME cos I tend to run them quite fat. Ye Gods that was LOUD!! It isnt just that track 2056 vs 1533. Try it with the other midi Supertrack on Strings - 2058. Change it to any RT, strings or otherwise - but keep the volume low!! So, something serious is going on - is it a Bug?? OK BB Pro's - whats going on please? cheers ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235500 01/16/14 02:49 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,047 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,047 Hamlin NY	I just verified it here. Replace a super MIDI track in this style with a RT and the RT is extremely loud. Hopefully later tonight I can try this again but with a different style. My goal this weekend is to move just enough each day so that no one pokes me to see if I'm dead or not. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235502 01/16/14 03:02 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Anyone know of another Style that has Super miditracks in it to do a seperate test? Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235530 01/16/14 06:22 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,047 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,047 Hamlin NY	Ian, go to the style picker and scroll down the all styles until you see super miditracks. When you click on a super miditrack you will see styles that contain that super miditrack. I just used three different styles that contained a super miditrack piano part and replaced that part with various piano RTs with no increase in volume. It looks like you found a bug in that one style. However you should try what I did and see if you get the same results. My goal this weekend is to move just enough each day so that no one pokes me to see if I'm dead or not. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235532 01/16/14 06:33 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Mac Veteran M Joined: May 2000 Posts: 38,502 Chesapeake, Virginia USA	Well, one if ya should send an email to Support and report it, referencing this thread. So they can get going on a repair to add to the next Update, hopefully. --Mac PGmusic FAQs, Tutorials and Updates! click here You must be Audiominds. www.audiominds.com

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION Mac #235577 01/17/14 03:57 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Hi Mac Duly reported, Sir, thanks. Thanks too to Leon and MarioD for taking the time to check out what I was saying. I DID run a few checks on other MST Styles but couldnt get this effect on them. Example - _CLTARPG-STY which is essentially the same style without the strings track will work fine when I sub the 2056 for anything else. Go figure. Interestingly - neither Track 2056 or 2058 appear in the RealTracks Picker window, so if I wanted to sub 2056 or 2058 into anything I was doing (on another SGU) I couldnt. Maybe thats the root cause.Hopefully Support will tell us and issue a patch next time round.. (They ARE there in the Supertracks picker window.) cheers ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235719 01/18/14 03:24 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	BUG CONFIRMED BY PG SUPPORT Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235733 01/18/14 06:35 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida 90 dB Veteran
90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	Originally Posted By: sixchannel BUG CONFIRMED BY PG SUPPORT Good. I just blew my eardrums out after changing a piano patch. Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION 90 dB #235754 01/18/14 08:07 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Originally Posted By: 90 dB Originally Posted By: sixchannel BUG CONFIRMED BY PG SUPPORT Good. I just blew my eardrums out after changing a piano patch. Hi we DID warn you it was LOUD Were you doing the same test or is it another Style? Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION sixchannel #235778 01/18/14 11:08 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	Originally Posted By: sixchannel Originally Posted By: 90 dB Originally Posted By: sixchannel BUG CONFIRMED BY PG SUPPORT Good. I just blew my eardrums out after changing a piano patch. Hi we DID warn you it was LOUD Were you doing the same test or is it another Style? Ian Ian - I don't remember, and I can't check it right now. Got a gig tonight. It was a MIDI Supertrack that I was trying to replace with a RT though. Not the first time I've had that happen. I thought it was pilot error! (It usually is) Regards, Bob Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: MASSIVE VOLUME CHANGE ON TRACK SUBSTITUTION 90 dB #235797 01/18/14 01:58 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,246 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Originally Posted By: 90 dB Originally Posted By: sixchannel Originally Posted By: 90 dB Originally Posted By: sixchannel BUG CONFIRMED BY PG SUPPORT Good. I just blew my eardrums out after changing a piano patch. Hi we DID warn you it was LOUD Were you doing the same test or is it another Style? Ian Ian - I don't remember, and I can't check it right now. Got a gig tonight. It was a MIDI Supertrack that I was trying to replace with a RT though. Not the first time I've had that happen. I thought it was pilot error! (It usually is) Regards, Bob I've tried a few other Styles based on MSTs and subs to RT don't affect them. Unless you find differently of course. Its for sure related to 2056 and 2058 and maybe the fact that they dont appear in Picker list is relevant. Rob at PG is working on it as it is the same on the PG computers. Ian Last edited by sixchannel; 01/18/14 01:59 PM. Reason: typos Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

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