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Well Peeps, I just got some very positive feedback from Nashville on this one. The style was described as "radio." https://soundcloud.com/david-snyder-gigs/moreI built a little backing style and then added some home spices, but not too much. I am finding less is more and BIAB beds are solid as concrete for songwriting and song submission. Lyrics are on Soundcloud. The user-made bed is below and other live tracks include two acoustics and a Telecaster, but not too much. Great stuff on the forums these days! I am learning a lot from you guys!! ****** Song Summary ************* Title: More File:More5.SGU Key=A , Tempo 105, Length (m:s)=3:00 No intro. 75 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 75. Repeat x1 chorus Style is DCNTRY.STY RealTracks in style: ~518:Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 085 RealTracks in style: 1004:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Rhythm ClassicRockStrumming Ev16 065 RealTracks in style: 1421:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopCrossover Sw16 075 RealTracks in style: 1680:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 085 RealDrums in style: NashvillePop16^1-a:Snare, Hihat , b:Snare, Ride
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Soundcloud is having an issue with their website and the page won't load. FYI
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Hi David. Cool song!! It's got great energy, lyrics that are fun but still substantive, and a catchy melody. I don't know if the production is quite as clean as your last but I love the song and the vibe. Great work!! Take care. Greg
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Thanks Greg. I am not a huge fan of SoundCloud's apparent streaming quality but that is where most people post stuff. I can't seem to mix for SoundCloud. What I hear coming out of my studio is not anything like what I hear streaming when I post it there; it sounds like it is coming out of a tin can. Maybe SoundCloud suitable mixing is an art form. I dunno. Thanks for the feedback though!!
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Thanks Greg. I am not a huge fan of SoundCloud's apparent streaming quality but that is where most people post stuff. I can't seem to mix for SoundCloud. What I hear coming out of my studio is not anything like what I hear streaming when I post it there; it sounds like it is coming out of a tin can. Maybe SoundCloud suitable mixing is an art form. I dunno. Thanks for the feedback though!! What kind of monitors are you using to mix? With decent monitors and a high bit rate mp3 conversion, the mix should sound good no matter where it's posted. The speakers you use to listen to SC also play a factor.
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Hey Herb,
I have a variety of different speaker set ups I use. But I personally think all streaming music dilutes what the artist intended, and can never deliver the sonic spectrum of a good mix. Tom Petty says the same thing about streaming music so I am apparently not the only one. As Petty says, or something like this: "With streaming you hear about 1/100th of the music. I hate it." Or something to that effect. I also think streaming music (especially through a phone) generally sounds thin, weak, warbly, and missing entire dynamic ranges. BUT, it is a great way to hear everyone's tunes so I should not complain, yet it will never be as good as VINYL:) Or better yet, a FOUR TRACK REEL TO REEL. If we could all mail one another reel to reel tapes we would be in heaven. Until then, I guess we will have to let SoundCloud do. Thanks for the feedback.
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Really enjoyed the guitar work. The 12 string was perfect.
A lot of dedication in those lyrics, too.
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David, Always upload your songs with the highest mp3 resolution (320kbs). Some players will reduce that to 128.
Done properly, you should still get a very good representation of the music. Much depends on how you are listening. Phones and laptops are not the best to playback media. However, using good buds makes even those players sound good.
Don't use what T Petty said as an excuse for sub-par mixes because while what he said is a bit exaggerated, (1/100th?) to most people, to the average listener, the mp3 at 128, 320, and a wave all sound too close to really tell the difference. Not including musicians and audiophiles in that list necessarily.
I listened to your song on some tiny 3" Altec Lansing computer speakers. The mix sounded pretty decent overall. It has a Bob Dylan feel. It reminded me of the groove in Tangled up in Blue....
Crits: The word ALABAMA doesn't fit neatly into the rhythmic phrasing smoothly like it should. Chord clash issues at 1:15 Aside from those 2 nits.... the song is generally pretty good.
Maybe you can bring the NSAI review to our next meeting (12/16) and demo this song for the group with the comments by NSAI, because I'm curious to see what the reviewer thought of this.
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I like the rhythm of the "bed" (as you call it).
You bring a lot of energy to your vocals.
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Hey Thank you! I really appreciate that!
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Here's a link you might find interesting regarding mixing for soundcloud. Soundcloud Mixing Hi David. Cool song!! It's got great energy, lyrics that are fun but still substantive, and a catchy melody... Greg I like what Greg said. "Fun but still substantive" lyrics. That's a hard to hit sweet spot. Good work!! J&B
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Thanks Herb. The feedback from NSAI is easily explained. It is the best eval I have received from them so far by far. They basically said they loved it. I don't want to boast about it because that's not cool but in a nutshell they essentially said this is the kind of stuff they are looking for and is the kind of stuff that gets picked up and that I should write more like this. So now that I know that, I have a better idea of what to do. As you astutely stated in our last meeting, Nashville has turned into a rock and roll town. As you also wisely pointed out, the session players who make the sounds these days are rock players, not country players, and the sound is rock. Therefore, I have taken your suggestion and started using the hard rock beds in BIAB and layering them, and lo and behold, they like the sound. So, once again, you are right. My main take away is that I am going to stick with what I love--writing rock and roll--and both you and NSAI have now given me every reason to do so. And BIAB gives me the beds to make it happen--with molten lava. I am going to Sam Ash right now to get new Telecaster strings. I will be turning the Twin Reverb up to 10. I think I got it now. Thanks for the solid direction Herb and for getting me into this!!!! You are a true friend, guru, and mentor!!:)
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Hi David,
I like the rhythm of the "bed" (as you call it).
You bring a lot of energy to your vocals.
I enjoyed my listen. Guenter
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Thanks Herb. The feedback from NSAI is easily explained. It is the best eval I have received from them so far by far. They basically said they loved it. I don't want to boast about it because that's not cool but in a nutshell they essentially said this is the kind of stuff they are looking for and is the kind of stuff that gets picked up and that I should write more like this. So now that I know that, I have a better idea of what to do. As you astutely stated in our last meeting, Nashville has turned into a rock and roll town. As you also wisely pointed out, the session players who make the sounds these days are rock players, not country players, and the sound is rock. Therefore, I have taken your suggestion and started using the hard rock beds in BIAB and layering them, and lo and behold, they like the sound. So, once again, you are right. My main take away is that I am going to stick with what I love--writing rock and roll--and both you and NSAI have now given me every reason to do so. And BIAB gives me the beds to make it happen--with molten lava. I am going to Sam Ash right now to get new Telecaster strings. I will be turning the Twin Reverb up to 10. I think I got it now. Thanks for the solid direction Herb and for getting me into this!!!! You are a true friend, guru, and mentor!!:) 
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Really enjoyed the guitar work. The 12 string was perfect.
A lot of dedication in those lyrics, too.
we definitely agree! Well done David.
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Cool song. I really like it. I'm glad you and Herb had a bit of back and forth about NSAI and Nashville. As good as I like it, I was left wondering what Nashville would do with this one.
This is a good song to work some shots and holds into. I heard several places I thought they would suit the song.
Enjoyed my listen.
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Interesting song especially when you say they essentially said this is the kind of stuff they are looking for and is the kind of stuff that gets picked up and that I should write more like this. I have a few like this I must dig them out. Back to your song, great cliches and I like the way you fit Alabama  enjoyed Alyn
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Hi David,
Good upbeat song and I like the rhythm of the instruments you used for this song. I wish you the best on your journey with the Nashville crowd. Enjoyed!
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