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Yes, the second is much more MONO than the first.
Are the two channels from the Scarlett to the Mixer panned at the Mixer? (you said input fed through Scarlett so I assume it is first in line) Also, how does the recorded sound from the Scarlett sound when recorded using the Scarlett USB connection to the computer? Yes channels from the 2i2 are panned fully left and right at the mixer and I am listening at the mixer. The recorded sound from the 2i2 USB connection sounds great. I hadn't tried that before!! So passing through the 2i2 via USB to the computer keeps the channels separate but passing through from audio in to audio out combines them to mono? Why would it be designed that way? Thanks a lot, we are getting somewhere. Tony
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I doubt it is designed that way. Double check your routing; I think something may be amiss between the 2i2 audio output and your monitoring/recording signal .. If it is designed to do this inside the 2i2 I am disappointed.. that's just wrong.
Again, it may be why they associated the use of balanced cables (in the manual) with Line level inputs. That would still be disappointing though. Have you tried balanced cables?
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On the Scarletts with MixControl, I have to pan one channel hard left, the other hard right. I don't know how it's done on this model without the software mixer, but I think you are on to something.
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I doubt it is designed that way. Double check your routing; I think something may be amiss between the 2i2 audio output and your monitoring/recording signal .. If it is designed to do this inside the 2i2 I am disappointed.. that's just wrong.
Again, it may be why they associated the use of balanced cables (in the manual) with Line level inputs. That would still be disappointing though. Have you tried balanced cables?
I cannot think of what can be amiss after the 2i2 audio out. All that has been fixed for years and sounds great without the 2i2 in the loop. I haven't got any 1/4" TRS cables so I used 1/8" stereo cables with 1/8" to 1/4" TRS adapters at the ends for the 2i2 input. I assume this is the same as TRS? The T&R%S continuity checked out OK. The results were the same as TS cables. Tony
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It's official, the 2i2 sums to mono when "direct monitor" is switched on.
This is Will Kent's reply - Focusrite Tech Support.
"When you use the direct monitor feature on the 2i2, your input signals will be summed to mono through both the headphone and monitor outputs. When you monitor the audio through your daw software you will be able to record and monitor the input audio in stereo, with the direct monitor off."
Since you have to have the direct monitor switched on to monitor at the 2i2 or pass the audio through the rear outputs, a stereo piano will always be summed to mono except through the USB connection to a DAW etc. I suspect you would only notice this feature using a stereo piano sound.
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It's official, the 2i2 sums to mono when "direct monitor" is switched on.
This is Will Kent's reply - Focusrite Tech Support.
"When you use the direct monitor feature on the 2i2, your input signals will be summed to mono through both the headphone and monitor outputs. When you monitor the audio through your daw software you will be able to record and monitor the input audio in stereo, with the direct monitor off."
Since you have to have the direct monitor switched on to monitor at the 2i2 or pass the audio through the rear outputs, a stereo piano will always be summed to mono except through the USB connection to a DAW etc. I suspect you would only notice this feature using a stereo piano sound.
Tony thank you Tony for reporting that back! I never used the direct monitor myself, but I know it's a popular selling point. that really kinda sucks that it sums to mono for monitoring. I mean, I sum to mono myself when I'm tracking vocals, but for tracking keyboards (or stereo guitar pedals) I would not want the device to force me into mono tracking.
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Hence the reduced price, I suppose .. Pretty much renders direct monitoring useless here unless using as a MONO input unit. One more solder joint and they could have nailed it!
If you 'have to' use Direct monitoring to use the rear outs (and then it sums to MONO anyway), why have two outputs on the back?? It's makin' my head hurt.. Something seems wrong here I can understand the headphones (as a stereo jack is common) but why add the second output jack on the back if it is useless?
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I see an issue using 1/8" stereo cables with 1/4" adapters as a replacement for 1/4" mono cables.
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There is also the mention of the use of 'balanced' cables for Line level and as opposed to Instrument Level inputs (in the manual). Maybe without the added connection it assumes you plugged a guitar directly into it or something.
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