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Just been watching the videos but can't see how it works, does it follow a midi chord input track ?

I have not had time to really dive in and figure it out; I even bought the Groove 3 ST3 tutorial and watched it and I'm still a little puzzled. What I did find is I can select an instrument, select a pattern, change its key and then drag it into my DAW where I can edit it further if needed.

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@pipeline yes "Uploading it as a MIDI user track defeats the whole purpose of using a sample library to create a great sounding UserTrack." the sample would not be there.

If the Super Track is MIDI data only I thought there would be no sampled sound from a library what jjj seems to be so concerned about. It seems like PG music has split hairs in this regard, making Demo Songs which are quite close to melodies we all recognize. But, they may have permission. I don't know. I still think jjj needs to just contact the owner of the library and ask them for permission. Or for a job.


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@dga Yes the only way is contact them.

@jjj I think it just does the key, you can always drag the patterns or any midi straight into your RapidComposer and then "Convert to Relative Form" to fit automatically to your chords/scale, just import the BB Chord Output midi to give you the chord track for any midi to follow, and load ST3 in.
The version 3 RapidComposer has just been released so you might get a free upgrade.

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
@dga Yes the only way is contact them.

@jjj I think it just does the key, you can always drag the patterns or any midi straight into your RapidComposer and then "Convert to Relative Form" to fit automatically to your chords/scale, just import the BB Chord Output midi to give you the chord track for any midi to follow, and load ST3 in.
The version 3 RapidComposer has just been released so you might get a free upgrade.




Thanks Pipeline! I was dragging into my DAW (Reaper) but I guess dragging into Rapid Composer works as well. Yes, I already downloaded the v3.0 upgrade.

I tried what you suggested...drag a pattern to RC and then set it to "Convert to Relative Form" but that did not seem to do anything. I seem to have four bars of the same pattern playing identically even though the RC bars have different chords assigned.

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So you have your chords in the Master Track.
Drag the midi into a new track, while it still in absolute form move it from left to right across the chord changes you will see the notes stay in the same position - now convert to relative and move left to right and you will see the notes adjust to fit chord/scale notes.
If you double click it will open up in the editor - in the View Option check color note by chord/scale/out-of-scale - this will give green chord note - blue scale note - red out.

You can use absolute midi to put under the existing midi pattern for keyswitch articulations in Kontakt - so you can have an associated keyswitch midi for a pattern so no matter where you have it in the chord track it will do the same keyswitches.




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This was asked to IK:
I would like to use SampleTank to save my midi files to wav loops that others can use.

"If you are using the loops for performance or creation of songs, that is certainly ok...
If you are not looking to sell or create them as a library to eventually sell, you are ok to use the loops for music making."



If you are unsure please contact IK yourself.

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
This was asked to IK:
I would like to use SampleTank to save my midi files to wav loops that others can use.

"If you are using the loops for performance or creation of songs, that is certainly ok...
If you are not looking to sell or create them as a library to eventually sell, you are ok to use the loops for music making."



If you are unsure please contact IK yourself.

So,

1) they confirmed that we can use their samples in our own performances and songs
2) they strongly implied selling or planning to sell would be a problem
3) they kinda dodged your direct question about whether you can distribute for use by others if no sales take place (or maybe you could conclude that because they did not strictly prohibit it it is allowed?)

Thanks for asking them!

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline

Thanks for that graphic! I am still not really understanding though. When I drag a pattern from ST3 into RC and then Convert to Relative Form I am not hearing much change. Is this supposed to convert the pattern to match the chords set on the tracks?

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Once you have your chords in the master track and the scale chosen it will adjust the Relative midi notes to fit to the chord notes and scale notes of that bar/s.

There are plenty of new videos out, check em out.


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