Thanks, silvertones, I may do that. Right now Kent is still trying things with me and I think I'll stick with what he's got me doing unless he suggests that I reinstall or tells me he can't figure it out. he was able to figure out part of it. I can now see a lot more real tracks than before and now the ones that are N/A will show up if I check that box. they weren't showing up before. that problem was due to me having an older build of 2008. I was on 263 and the latest build for 2008.5 is 265. after installing that patch I can now see a lot more of the real tracks - but still not all of them for some reason. Kent's still working on it, so I'll stick with what he's having me do before reinstalling - but I think that's not a bad idea, tho! thanks!