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Hola, Un cordial saludo a todxs.
¿Existe alguna opción para conocer la duración prevista de la canción que se esté editando?
Muchas gracias.
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Hola Fermin. bienvenido al foro,
Band-in-a-Box no muestra de manera directa la duracion especifica de un proyecto o cancion, sin embargo existen metodos sencillos para calcular la cantidad de minutos y segundos de los mismos. Uno de ellos es una formula de aplicación muy simple que permite obtener el resultado tanto en una base de binaria de 4, 3 y 2 para compases de 4/4 3/4 y 2/2 y con algunas variaciones para 6/8, 12/8, e incluso bases de tempo asimétricas o amalgamadas.
Por ejemplo, suponiendo que tenemos montada una cancion que tenga 24 compases a un tempo de 85 negras por minuto. Para obtener la duración de la misma en segundos, usaremos la siguiente formula:
NC*BasePPQN/BPM (numero de compases) por (base de pulsos) dividido entre (Tempo BPM)
lo cual serias asi
Para compases de 4/4
+ 24,00 Numero de compases
* 240,00 base ppqn 4/4
/ 85,00 Tempo
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67,76 segundos.
Para compases de 3/4
+ 24,00 Numero de compases
* 180,00 base ppqn 3/4
/ 85,00 Tempo
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50,82 segundos.
Para compases de 2/4
+ 24,00 Numero de compases
* 120,00 base ppqn 2/4
/ 85,00 Tempo
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33,88 segundos.
Como ya sabemos, la manera mas habitual de configurar la estructura de una cancion en Band-in-a-Box es por medio de la repeticion de "COROS" en donde se establece un valor de entrada, por lo general en el compas 1, un numero de compases por coro, y la repeticion del primer coro un determinado numero de veces. Un ejemplo: 1 - 24 x 3 a 85 BPM a 4/4 . Esto significa que la canción basicamente tiene una estructura armónica básica de acordes que se inicia en el compas 1 hasta llegar a los 24 compases, los cuales se repetirán 3 veces (COROS) en una clave de ritmo de 4/4.
Tomando esto en cuenta, para la aplicación de la fórmula anterior debemos entonces multiplicar los compases básicos por la cantida de coros, en este caso seria 24 x 3 = 72 compases.
Igualmente debemos tomar en cuenta los dos compases del final, que solo serán tocados una vez después del último coro para finalizar la canción. Estos compases finales generalmente son 2, aunque pueden configurarse en 4 compases finales para los RealTracks.
Suponiendo que son 2 compases al final, tendríamos que añadirlos al total anterior, 72+2=74 compases. De la misma forma no debemos olvidarnos de los compases de conteo inicial configurados en la seccion de Conteo de Entrada/Metrónomo y añadirlos igualmente si lo que queremos es la duracion total del proyecto, pero si solo queremos la duración neta de la canción no será necesario incluirlos.
Aplicando la fórmula tendríamos lo siguiente:
Para compases de 4/4
+ 74.00 Numero de compases
* 240.00 base ppqn 4/4
/ 85.00 Tempo
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208.94 segundos.
lo cual equivaldría por medio de una simple conversión a 3 Minutos 28 segundos.
NOTA: Para convertir segundos a minutos se dividen los mismos entre 60, por ejemplo en nuestro caso: 208.94/60=3.48 , luego se toman los decimales ( .48) y se multiplican por 60 para convertirlos a segundos de nuevo, y tendriamos 3 minutos, 28 segundos.
Espero haber podido ayudar en tus dudas, estamos a la orden.
Saludos,
Carlos E. Arellano
PG Music
Gabriel Arellano,
Nucleox Music
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Foro para el usuario de Band-in-a-Box en Español
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Hola Carlos, lo primero es pedirte disculpas por no haber respondido antes para agradecer tu amable y detallada respuesta. Justo después de mi consulta tuve que centrarme en un tema urgente y luego se me pasó este asunto...
El caso que ya empleo un método parecido al que indicas. No es tan detallado ya que no suelo usar compases distintos a 4/4 ni tampoco utilizo coros. Trabajo en un modo "extendido" o "lineal" para ver de golpe el desarrollo y la extensión de la canción en la pantalla. Me biene bien porque el principal destino son bases musicales para vídeos (vuelos sobre ciudades hechos con Google Earth) y necesito un control preciso de la duración.
Y además de la duración, también suelo necesitar conocer los otros parámetros de la ecuación, es decir, la velocidad que debo asignar a una obra ya compuesta para que se ajuste a un tiempo dado e, incluso alguna vez, el número de compases a quitar o añadir para cumplir con una duración y una velocidad determinadas.
Mis fórmulas quedan así. (Ahora no recuerdo el proceso exacto para deducirlas pero espero que funcionen :-) )
_________
SEGUNDOS (Duración)
Segs = Comps * (240 / bpm)
_________
BPM (Velocidad)
BPM = (Comps * 240) / Segs
_________
COMPASES (Número de compases)
Comps = Segs / (240 / bpm)
Lo que me extraña mucho es que BIAB no incluya esta información tan sencilla de obtener teniendo cuenta, además, su inclinación a ofrecer una enorme cantidad de utilidades y herramoientas para otros propósitos.
En fin, para terminar y, como he dicho al principio, me ha impresionado la rapidez y dedicación de tu respuesta, y tu labor en el foro me da seguridad y confianza para seguir investigando en esta estupenda (y clásica) herramienta que es Band In A Box.
Gracias Carlos y un cordial saludo.
Por cierto, he vuelto al foro para preguntar otra cosa y con toda esta 'novela' se me ha olvidado. Supongo que volveré pronto. :-)
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
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Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
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Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
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