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Drums in the red #455948 02/06/18 03:34 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,574 Hong Kong L lambada OP Expert
OP lambada Expert L Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,574 Hong Kong	Hi I'm running through the styles (just realtracks, no midi) from the style picker with everything muted except the drums and bass. And various a b styles selected. Just really to get some ideas of bass and drum backing for possible FAWN songs. Is it just me that has every drum track in the red on the BIAB 2018 mixer? My volumes are all set at 90. Is this a false flag or will it be a problem? Does it mean it's distorting or not? Windows 10 Home 20H2 Build 19042.487 BIAB 2021 (Build 818) Intel(R) Core(TM), i3-4160, CPU @3.60 GHz RAM 16 GB, 64 Bit X64-based processor Zoom UAC-2 (USB 3 interface-built in midi) VoiceLive 3 Extreme, Sputnik Valve Condenser Mic

Re: Drums in the red lambada #455956 02/06/18 04:18 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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fiddler2007 Expert Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796	Usually one should leave a little headroom, when you mix tracks together to a stereo mix. The biab mixer has a scale from 0-127, that might translate to - 60 (or nothing) dBu to +12 dBu. IMO: I guess 90 is around 0 dBu, with a normalized RT or Drum audio file, so you'll have 12 dBu headroom maybe as volume playground. Can of worms here BTW ... -F

Re: Drums in the red lambada #456006 02/06/18 08:58 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,966 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,966 Australia	floyd recently spoke about this. It might have been on his video that I saw it, I'm not sure. The bottom line is that 'in the red' is less important in the world of digital than it was in world of analogue. If you don't hear any distortion, then there is nothing to worry about. Let your ears guide you. If you are concerned, try adding PG Dynamics or PG Peaklimit to the drums track. Try experimenting. For example... Put the same set of drums of two or three different tracks. Generate the tracks. Keep one track natural. To one of the other tracks add the PG Dynamics plugin and to the other track, add the PG Peaklimit plugin. Now compare the tracks and ask yourself some questions such as... How do the tracks compare with one another? What do you gain or lose by adding plugins when compared to the natural track? Does the natural track sound distorted? Regards, Noel my latest song: So Beautiful MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Drums in the red lambada #456021 02/06/18 10:12 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 9,412 Middlesex, NC	Yep this was in fact discussed somewhere up above.... red isn't a big issue. If you can't hear any issues it's fine. edit: here>>> http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=451099&page=1 mostly on the second page Last edited by Guitarhacker; 02/06/18 10:15 AM. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Drums in the red lambada #456086 02/06/18 04:48 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 794 joden Journeyman
joden Journeyman Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 794	look at the waveforms in a DAW and you'll find that most of the tracks that hit the red, have flattened waveform tops and bottoms, indicating there is indeed digital distortion. What I do is bring the level down to nudging the yellow and then export the audio to DAW, where that headroom is VITAL!!

Re: Drums in the red lambada #456150 02/07/18 01:44 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP lambada Expert L Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,574 Hong Kong	Thanks all. It only started to appear in 2017. Whilst I can't hear any distortion, I do always take it down until the red disappears and then balance everything else against wherever the drums are, particularly as my recording flow is BIAB to Realband and then Reaper/Ozone etc. Windows 10 Home 20H2 Build 19042.487 BIAB 2021 (Build 818) Intel(R) Core(TM), i3-4160, CPU @3.60 GHz RAM 16 GB, 64 Bit X64-based processor Zoom UAC-2 (USB 3 interface-built in midi) VoiceLive 3 Extreme, Sputnik Valve Condenser Mic

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