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Real-Time Arranger Mode #625375 11/26/20 12:42 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 1 M marceloquinones OP Newbie
OP marceloquinones Newbie M Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 1	I've been wishing this for years.... I wish BB can also have a Real Time Arranger mode like the live arranger modes of Roland RA, Korg PA, Yamaha PSR and others... It will be fantastic to control BB with the chords that I press on my keyboards in Real Time and it will bring more live performance magic to the software instead of waiting to type all the chords and circumscribing to a designated number of measures to perform from the beginning to the end. Thank you.

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode marceloquinones #625391 11/26/20 02:21 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 5,824 Rustyspoon# Veteran
Rustyspoon# Veteran Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 5,824	+1 It actually a very interesting topic. I can only assume it is resources that are limiting this. Real tracks / Real Drums are real audio. Compared to PSR which is MIDI. However, current arrangers (Genos, I believe) is using similar technology as BIAB (audio+midi). I wonder if you can play live these audio things in Genos live (change chords live) I am sure you can... It might be that Genos is using much smaller files chopped up, so they are responsive to live chord input. Again, I fully support this idea, just not sure if it is possible with current code and average hardware people have at home. My guess it is... If you already made your style selection (all real tracks + drums), in theory it could chop all phrasing and load them ALL. Which will likely require big and fast memory chip and time it will take to load this monster into memory. I guess, if it happens it could bring a good chunk of new people into PG world.

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode Rustyspoon# #625554 11/27/20 02:57 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,754 J justanoldmuso Veteran
justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,754	Rusty. i doubt we will see a totally fluid solution. i'm sceptical because of the delay (no matter how small) between user action and machine reaction. New Song "PRETTY GIRL" for my wife...Dec 2023 (my vocs....mixed for good earbuds.) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs/prettygirlrbfinalcalfsongsdec2023mp3 (and rock song THE STALLION and bluegrass song... BANKER MAN....90 songs useing bb/rb.)

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode marceloquinones #625636 11/27/20 08:56 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 5,824 Rustyspoon# Veteran
Rustyspoon# Veteran Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 5,824	justanoldmuso, Samplers, romplers and everything in between had been around for long (long!) time. I am sure it is not simple programming, but in theory it is possible.

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode Rustyspoon# #625696 11/27/20 12:23 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,754 J justanoldmuso Veteran
justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,754	Rusty. yep ive used samplers etc in the past. maybe pg should hold user referenda, as to future features. i think youll find there are tech reasons why this feature might pose a problem. this feature has been asked for many times over the years. best. muso. New Song "PRETTY GIRL" for my wife...Dec 2023 (my vocs....mixed for good earbuds.) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs/prettygirlrbfinalcalfsongsdec2023mp3 (and rock song THE STALLION and bluegrass song... BANKER MAN....90 songs useing bb/rb.)

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode marceloquinones #625723 11/27/20 02:04 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	I have posted an easy way Biab could do this Biab Live Chord Input You can do this now easily with the BB Plugin Biab Tracks Live Chord Input Playing In Reaper https://www.dropbox.com/s/cclb5zq413870e4/BB-Tracks-Live-Chord-Playing.mp4?dl=0 And this will give multi chord tracks https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=621808#Post621808 Biab Track Injector for Reaper Free Biab Chord Picker Tool

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode marceloquinones #625833 11/28/20 12:12 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,542 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,542 Melbourne, Australia	It has been and remains a very worthwhile request. I can imagine that there are definitely ways to achieve such a result from inside the program. Good request, and another vote of support. +1 BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode AudioTrack #625839 11/28/20 01:40 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	The more I think about it, they should be able to play it direct from disk, so what ever chord is entered on your midi keyboard it will play that section in the files. Just like Kontakt will play the samples of the notes you play, or UJAM Virtual Guitar/Drum VSTi will play the phrases for each Chord you are playing on your keyboard, so if I load UJAM Bass, UJAM Rhythm and UJAM Solo they will all follow the chords I play. So Biab could do the same, just as UJAM plays direct from the large sample libraries, it would load all the track data of all the RTs & RD of the style you choose and that is the sample library it plays from. Below is a video demo playing a RealTrack file direct from Biab USB disk, Biab would read the data for the RT/RD files of the style. https://www.dropbox.com/s/n83ve8lpfml0efb/RT-Play-from-Disk.mp4?dl=0 So the data would be something like the csv region data in Reaper for the RT file below with start and end point in the wav/wma AcG011.csv AcG011.wav Code: #,Name,Start,End,Length,Color R1,A,1.1.00,3.1.00,2.0.00,FF80C0 R2,A,3.1.00,4.1.00,1.0.00,E41A27 R3,E,4.1.00,6.1.00,2.0.00,E41A27 R4,A,6.1.00,8.1.00,2.0.00,E41A27 R5,E,8.1.00,10.1.00,2.0.00,E41A27 R6,D,10.1.00,12.1.00,2.0.00,E41A27 R7,E,12.1.00,13.1.00,1.0.00,E41A27 R8,F#m,13.1.00,15.1.00,2.0.00,E41A27 ... ... Biab Track Injector for Reaper Free Biab Chord Picker Tool

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode Pipeline #625842 11/28/20 01:53 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	So it would work in a similar way as the midi keyboard Styles work. Below is the make up of a keyboard Style, you have all the different sections then those sections of midi notes are just snapped to your chord notes you are playing. But with Biab you would get way more diversity and Real playing of Real Instruments. Look out Yamaha, though they do now have Real Audio for their drums in some Styles of the better keyboards. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Reaper-keyboard-Style.png (199.8 KB, 62 downloads) Biab Track Injector for Reaper Free Biab Chord Picker Tool

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode marceloquinones #781805 11/09/23 05:47 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651 musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651	Originally Posted by marceloquinones I've been wishing this for years.... I wish BB can also have a Real Time Arranger mode like the live arranger modes of Roland RA, Korg PA, Yamaha PSR and others... It will be fantastic to control BB with the chords that I press on my keyboards in Real Time and it will bring more live performance magic to the software instead of waiting to type all the chords and circumscribing to a designated number of measures to perform from the beginning to the end. Thank you. Please Santa Gannon, let's hope we see this in a few weeks time ! https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Real-Time Arranger Mode musocity #781919 11/10/23 08:45 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 559 J J. Larry Journeyman
J. Larry Journeyman J Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 559	And Yamaha is set to introduce it's latest workstation/arranger next week, November 15. The teasers are already posted.

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