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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
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I tried singing the choruses myself but could not get low enough. Even Melodyne etc. couldn't fix the crook wobbly notes. I cheated...bumped the whole song up two semitones...sang to that - a little more comfortable - imported the higher vocal, used ReaPitch to drop it 2 semitones and it sounds NOTHING like me but I think it works.

The deep vocal at the tail end works great, and is its own sound, it's not just lower notes. And doubling guitar taking a solo for the last three notes to come back up to the surface, woo hoo.

Yeah, I thought the trem guitar revisiting for the end would have a bit of classic vibe to it. Thanks mark.


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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Ray,
Unusual twist in production.
It is clear where you tried to get and I respect your strive to conquer the machine, but I like original better. I briefly played around with pitch toys, but found it too labor intensive. It was easier for me just to take a dozen or two takes to get it right smile In any case, fun experiment. If I had this on my hands, I would either try to go human direction of original version, or complete opposite - heavily robo dosed vocs.
Thank you for sharing.
Misha.
P.S. That made me smile: "I'm a big fan of cheating!"

YES, labour intensive - far beyond their true value...yet BIAB manages it so well with their time stretching etc. Proprietary software I'd like to get my hands on.
The update is more my own voice/timbre...I did consider the robotic aspect but it runs counter to the chorus lyrics implied reference.
Thank you!


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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Ray, I really like this tune and I think you did an excellent job with it! The vocal sounds great to me and I love that chorus section! Thanks, Torrey

Thanks Torrey, apart from the chorus it was an easy one.


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Bud's gotta show his ignorance of music talk and wonder how a relatively small change like from a white key to a black key on a piano could go chipmonkey? He either doesn't understand a semi-tone or chipmunks smile

We like the second version better. It works well.

That lying awake thing can be pretty trippy at times!

An interesting experiment that worked well for us.

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Bud's gotta show his ignorance of music talk and wonder how a relatively small change like from a white key to a black key on a piano could go chipmonkey? He either doesn't understand a semi-tone or chipmunks smile
J&B

Good morning & thanks.
There're a few programs and, in some, parameters to tweak that are beyond my reckoning but it, strangely, only takes a couple of semitones before things become unreal.
I tried to 3 n 5 harmony part when I was dealing with this and neither was useful. I know the system BIAB uses to harmonize is similar and, when exposed to the light rather than in a mix and mixed back, it also has the My Friend The Witchdoctor quality.
As you can tell with this experiment two semitones can be reasonable though a little glitchy.
Basically it depends on the aggression with which the program tries to make the change...analogous to a compressor's attack...I didn't attempt any note smoothing because that can make things worse.
Apparently, in the heart of the industry, producers or engineers don't deal with the tuning...they send the files to a specialist who does it to order. I'd like to not have to do it at all.

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Cool tune Ray. I like the revoxed version better. Well done


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